epic fail by everyone who told you that

so what should even be done with this thread now? just rename it the wire discussion thread and have everyone use spoiler tags for 'big' stuff?

Sure why not.

also s2 has BestTVTitsEver

actually just BestTitsEver

**** spoilers in this thread. Just make it "Wire Discussion: Contains Spoilers". If people haven't watched by now, that is what they get.

Zee,

I just watched the ep with those tits, they are pretty ****ing amazing.

Ziggy? He's a legend of the docks

meh, he's a whiner who acts like a clown on purpose, then cries about how no one respects him. why should i like him, or care about him more than the ppl irl who are like this?

he has options, the same way the corner kids do, and is in a MUCH better position to do something about it (move, go to school, whatever). but he takes the easy way out by stealing and selling drugs. i see the parallel they're trying to draw with the corner, but i don't think it holds much water.

like i said, i think S2 had some good ideas and points to make, but didn't really realize its full potential. just felt like they didn't get into the characters enough, explored their lives and motivations, rather just scratched the surface (a problem when you're juggling so many storylines, with so little time). it's still very good TV, but not my favourite season.

i shouldn't even have mentioned it, but it's a very small part of his purpose on his show. don't think for a second that shows don't utilize characters like that to help break the overall tension of the show. they were going for that a little bit, but yet i didn't really think much he said/did was very funny.

but yeah, i really shouldn't have even put that in there, knew it'd end up derailing my point...

Honestly when you put it like that- you're right. He was also needed comic relief, I interpreted that as you suggesting he was JUST comic relief. My bad.

Season 2 also has the best ending montage/finale imo.

definitely

How do people feel about Brother Mouzone? I've heard (but not yet witnessed a discussion for myself EDIT: did a Google search and saw some things) that many think that he's an awful character and is the "Jar Jar Binks" of the series.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. He's an awesome mythic figure, as is Omar. People who think that way I believe are getting too caught up in how "realistic" the show is supposed to be. It's still a mythology, and you're conveniently ignoring quite a bit other than Mouzone if you think that the show is only supposed to be this "gritty and realistic" drama.

Regarding Omar, whole series spoilers:

There was at least like 5 pages of discussion on whether Omar would actually make that jump and whether it was realistic blah blah blah, like people were doing math in the thread and stuff. Then later on we find out that Simon based that on someone who had actually done the same thing.

Wow, I've never heard of Mouzone being referred to as the "Jar Jar Binks" of the series. Couldn't disagree more...and a terrible analogy imo.

Not 100%, but I'm pretty sure the character of Brother Mouzone is based off reality as well. IMO people's problems with Mouzone and Omar comes from them being combos of multiple fantastic characters, which makes them out to be a bit too "unrealistic" or over the top on the show.

Also, this has prob. been posted before on other Wire threads, but here's a composite sketch of Biggie's killer:



Just sayin'...

well I wasn't a fan of Omar after s3, dude became a too much of a Gary Stu figure and his story just gets more and more ridiculous.

I mean how he like survived a 10 storey fall and bandaged himself up, no probs yo, thats just dumb.

You realized you made your post in this thread after his post saying it was based on a real event?

Just finished ''The Corner''

It was right up there with ''The Wire''

5 Stars.

Watch ''The Corner'' right away.

Mouzone is terrible. I've never read about him being based off of anybody real like Omar was. He's just the most cartoonish character on the series, and is such a substantial departure from reality. He's just weird and badass seemingly to be weird and badass. The whole way he was presented, from the scene where he arrives and everything else just felt over-dramatic and over the top in a way that was really out of touch with the rest of the series.

i always thought that at some point kima and mcnulty were going to get it on for a one night stand. disappointed it never happened

Dids,

If you do an internet search for "Nation of Islam" and read about their inner workings and somewhat intensely odd strong-arm and intimidation tactics used against some within their organization and their opponents, one can assume that people "like" Brother Mouzone exist irl.

Oh, I'm sure that there's NOI gangster people rocking bow ties and handguns. I'm just not sure that they talk like Dirty Harry and get the "whoa ****, The Brother is in town" edit that he did.

It's a great testament to The Wire that they made Omar feel real, and I think one of their failings, in my eyes at least, is that they didn't with Brother.

some bits of omar didn't feel real to me. like when he stands outside a place with his back turned whistling waiting for the drugs to be dropped outside the window. why the hell is no one just putting one in the back of his head?

especially given the almost continuous bounty on his head, it's a joke that there weren't more young pretenders trying to shoot him.

(if this is just the way it was (like with the jumping out of the window) then i can't say much, but it seemed unrealistic)

yes, but it doesn't invalidate my point for being "based on a true event". I can definitely see it happening, but the whole thing is extraneous to any storyline development other than promoting Omar's Gary-Stu mythology.

C'mon Dids, this is a little insensitive. I started this thread for hopes of finding discussions about season 1. At least you can do is spoiler tag for those that may not have had HBO at one point in their lives. There are a few of us who are just starting out so please spoiler when possible.

I have a question about the season 2:

Who was that Greek guy in FBI who notified The Greek about everything?

Was he a real FBI guy or not? At the end of the season, it looked like he was a fake.

But if he was a fake, how did he lead the bust of columbian coke then?

If someone has an answer to this question, please help me cause I didn't get it completely...

I'm pretty sure he was a real FBI agent, just a little bit corrupt

He might have allowed The Greek to smuggle drugs in exchange for information regarding anti-terrorism/homeland security