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Old 04-05-2013, 10:24 AM   #3406
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

The show is certainly garbage at this point, but people didnt like season 1? I thought s1 was incredible, and s2 was good until Shane died. I must admit i still look forward to watching this every week and ill watch next season. Keep hope alive!
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #3407
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

I loved season 1. I've watched all of walking dead within the last 3 weeks or so. I've also read the synopsis of the comic books - and have read World War Z.

One thing I've found interesting ~early season 1 (can't remember exactly what caused it) I remember that suicides came up (lots of people committing suicide / 'opting out') and I remember when I really let my imagination go and tried to truly put myself in that situation - I thought "i bet I would almost for sure kill myself rather than face the terror that is all around".

As season 2 and season 3 progressed; I would watch 2 or more episodes at night - right before going to sleep. I noticed that I started having a lot of zombie dreams - but they weren't scary at all. In fact - in my dreams having zombies around (even if they were chasing me) really had almost no threat at all - it reminded me of being "chased" around by a bunch of two year olds...the terror was completely lost after season 1.

Even now - they've made the zombies so weak that the only moments that tap into fear at all either revolve around human vs human things - or around someone locked up and tied up in a room with a zombie (a la glen or andrea). Otherwise - the zombies pretty much have to magically appear out of nowhere to get someone.

I think that is where the show has gone wrong (blame the writers) and I don't see that it can come back from it...I'd almost think they should just have the zombies start dying off (starvation or something) and just turn it into a mad max or the stand (stephen king) type story.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:50 AM   #3408
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

They also somehow drained a post apocalyptic story of any survivalism. I didn't even think that was possible. This season nobody is hunting food, planting gardens, collecting water from rivers, nothing. Everybody is scavaging canned food from prisons and houses and off camera tanks of unlimited gas for their harleys. Not even a hint of self reliance. Dumbest apocalypse ever.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:56 AM   #3409
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Season 1 was great up until they met up with Hispanic gang that was just a front for an old person home. *cringe*
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:00 PM   #3410
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

Wow I forgot about that.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:22 PM   #3411
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

My personal comedy favourites:

Glenn being dangled down the well > Hispanic gang caring for the elderly > T_Dog throwing chair at window > Dale's lookout fail on the highway
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:37 PM   #3412
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At least it's better than Falling Skies, V, Terra Nova, and most recent attempts at sci-fi or horror on TV.
hmm my order would be

Falling Skies (actually anticipating!)
Walking Dead
Revolution
V (quit halfway through)
Terra Nova (managed to get through 2 episodes)

and I think Walking Dead is pretty dumb. Revolution just has the WOAT actors including the blond lead who is a constant state of manic/panic/tears.

note that Jericho crushed all of them, that was legit good

I do look forward to TWD more than Falling Skies though, that show is just really dark and production value isn't nearly as good (!!)
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:43 PM   #3413
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As for your last point, "why should the audience care?" I think it's obvious at this point that they don't give a **** about the emotional moments, and thus the directors aren't trying at all. People are watching this show to go "oooh zombies! shooting things! sooo cool!" It's nothing more than a guilty pleasure, and it reflects the minimal separation the masses have from their animalistic nature
For a normal person, there is absolutely not enough character development or identifiable characteristics for the characters who die for us to feel real emotion. However, for people who cry at weddings, this show must be an emotional roller coaster.

There were a ton of people who were legit distraught when Lori died, while most of us were high fiving each other (on the flip side, while many of the people in this thread were bummed when Shane was killed, most of the people who watch the show were high fiving each other). I'm sure it's the same for Andrea, even though the show handled her character absolutely wretchedly (with proper character development, her character makes sense, and the same goes for Michonne, but without it, it just makes every decision the characters make nonsensical).

The problems with the losses of T-Dog and Dale were that T-Dog dispatched himself nobly, and without any lead up to it. It was unexpected, and I don't think people had any kind of real chance to process it properly (not to mention he had been pretty much used as a hood ornament in the series for quite awhile, and now his treatment in memes is better than any treatment the series ever gave him). For Dale, both the audience and most of the characters in the show completely hated him for quite awhile. So, when he dies, everyone gets a "Come to Jesus" moment, and they all feel this "amazing" emotion for him. I would liken what happened with Dale being the equivalent of dying in high school. People might talk total s*** about a person on Friday, and act like they can't stand them. But if that person dies on Saturday, they'll have 300 people at their funeral who were talking crap about the person not even a week before. I used to use the phrase, "you never know how many people love you until you die in high school." I didn't really like how weaselly they had made Dale's character, but I equally didn't like the casual way they killed him in an incredibly stupid situation, even though it clearly played into killer Carl's development in a major way.

I think it's good that you don't fall for the blatant melodrama of poorly drawn characters, but there are a lot of people out there who cried when Bruce Willis was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice in Armageddon...lol.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:51 PM   #3414
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Favorite comedy: When Merle tells Glenn the zombie will only be hungry again an hour later. When Rick gets the news Lori is dead. T-Dog talking about 'God's plan' out of nowhere. Every Dale reaction ever to anything.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:54 PM   #3415
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note that Jericho crushed all of them, that was legit good
I wish I agreed with this. The premise was awesome and should have been the best, but I gave it a season and would like to have my time back. I know it has a small cult following but TWD is a better watch to me. Revolution I tried watching and that was just bad.

TWD for all of it's faults could be improved at any time, with the right talent on- and off-screen brought in. Just by it's nature you can turn over cast members and plots fairly easily. It hasn't been so bad to collapse and make me stop watching but it hasn't picked up either. That said I don't think I can take more than another 3-4 episodes of this Governor story, and not really anticipating the next season just to pick up where they left off in the showdown with him. Is there anybody who "can't wait" to see what happens with him next, as opposed to "I hope they hurry up and kill him off"?

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Old 04-05-2013, 01:09 PM   #3416
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lol if you loved the first 2.5 seasons then we are on completely different wavelengths. Andreas death was great
Andrea dying was great.

Andrea's death was terribad.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:04 PM   #3417
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

Other Post apoc type shows people might not know about

Survivors - BBC show about a virus that wipes out like 97% of people or something. Decently entertaining.

Jeremiah - pretty got darn cheesy and sometimes silly, but I still enjoyed it and it's > TWD by a lot.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:56 PM   #3418
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and s2 was good until Shane died.
That is indeed a valid way of saying you disliked the finale.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:51 AM   #3419
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Re: The Walking Dead: Season 3 (Premieres Sunday 10/14 at 9PM ET on AMC)

Yeah, I also miss shane, but this is still the best damn show on TV.

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Old 04-06-2013, 09:16 AM   #3420
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Yeah, I also miss shane, but this is still the best damn show on TV.

It's people like you who are the reason the writers can get away with this ****. This is a pretty entertaining show to watch, but it's not even in the same league as all the shows which are legit contenders for best show on TV. It's like Dexter. It's fun, and there are times when it's great, but there are also times when the fact that the show has a great premise obscures the fact that it might as well be written by a teenager for English class.
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