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05-31-2012, 01:26 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2011
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
I think there's a much larger campaign backstory behind why they hate him, but we haven't seen much of it, yet. As they expanded his role in episode 5, it's really easy to see why they can't stand him, but he hadn't really done anything overt, through the first 4 to explain why they were constantly making jokes at his expense. I agree that the more we hear him talk, the more crap he deserves. Less is more in regards to his character, in my opinion.
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05-31-2012, 02:22 PM
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#107
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formerly mjkidd
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Also the Jerry/Jonah thing doesn't work because as liaison to the VP's office Jonah has some authority over the VP's office.
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05-31-2012, 02:29 PM
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#108
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Get the impression that Julia louis-dreyfus would do better in a sitcom with Michael Richards, Jason Alexander, Jerry Seinfeld and possibly written by Larry David.
Dunno why but i think that show would be a bigger hit.
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05-31-2012, 02:39 PM
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#109
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formerly mjkidd
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
huuuurrrrrr duuuuuurrrrrr
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05-31-2012, 02:41 PM
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#110
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2011
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
Also the Jerry/Jonah thing doesn't work because as liaison to the VP's office Jonah has some authority over the VP's office.
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True, but it's splitting hairs really, because we're comparing characters of shows that aren't really very similar, outside of having truly outstanding ensembles, with the arguably the "weakest" link being the "star". The only other links that make them similar are that they are dealing with government, and a female protagonist who is trying to get ahead, while being thwarted by where she is, at the moment.
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05-31-2012, 06:46 PM
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#111
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Anyone with a poker screenname should just be instabanned if they wander outside of NVG
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05-31-2012, 08:41 PM
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#112
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Kevin Heffernan (Farva) was great in this episode.
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06-01-2012, 10:51 AM
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#113
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Modding All Day
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
We don't need a backstory to understand why they hate Jonah. They hate Jonah because he's an ******* who holds working the president over their heads at all times.
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06-01-2012, 12:05 PM
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#114
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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Originally Posted by DePokerGod
Get the impression that Julia louis-dreyfus would do better in a sitcom with Michael Richards, Jason Alexander, Jerry Seinfeld and possibly written by Larry David.
Dunno why but i think that show would be a bigger hit.
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I realize this is just a failed attempt at a joke- but I actually enjoy her performance in this more than as Elaine. I like her with a bit more consistent edge and authority.
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06-01-2012, 01:14 PM
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#115
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2011
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
We don't need a backstory to understand why they hate Jonah. They hate Jonah because he's an ******* who holds working the president over their heads at all times.
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You're right that we don't need it, but I think they were being really mean to him even before he started playing the constant White House card (even though he may have done that in his first scene, I can't remember for sure). I think it seems obvious the Veep and Prez were against each other in the primary, and there must have been a lot of bad blood between them. That carries on to their staffs, I think, as there would still be gloating and bitterness, especially if the Veep thinks the Prez isn't doing a good job.
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06-01-2012, 02:39 PM
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#116
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
He came off as a major creep in one of the first few episodes, not sure how much more backstory you can reasonably expect.
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06-04-2012, 12:35 AM
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#117
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formerly mjkidd
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
"Just because this wasn't your baby you don't... god I'm so sorry"
"Oh it's fine, it's fine, it was like a heavy period. Don't worry about it"
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06-04-2012, 04:06 AM
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#118
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Modding All Day
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
All jokes relating to dick cake were my favorites in this episode.
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06-04-2012, 10:42 AM
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#119
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
I had two potentially conflicting thoughts on this.
- I just never care enough about the plot and wait for the jokes
- I was really annoyed that they just did away with the pregnancy like that.
Show has a hard time spot for me, because I'm still in a post GoT/Mad Men headspace and never give it proper attention.
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06-04-2012, 04:38 PM
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#120
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Veep - HBO, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
All jokes relating to dick cake were my favorites in this episode.
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Dick cake was good, the rest was just sort of blah. I think one of the problems this show has is that despite being an ensemble comedy, all of the characters besides Jonah and Gary are just variations on self absorbed Washington political types, it gets sort of monotonous when they all are together.
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