I remember that.
ahhh memories.

SMG keeps telling anyone that will listen that the crazy ones was the role she had been waiting for all her life

she hasnt been lucky with the network

I really hope she doesn't believe that. I mean, she can't. She's barely tolerable in that show, as is the show it self. And with that cast, it should be a great one.

Crisis and Believe didn't do well last night, but they might have done well enough for a Sunday night.

Crisis-1.6 in the 18-49 demo with 6.51 million viewers
Believe-1.4 in the 18-49 demo with 6.51 million viewers

Resurrection dropped a lot, but was still more than high enough to have the highest ratings for the night on network TV with a 3.0 in the 18-49 demo and 10.80 million viewers, easily crushing the OUAT lead in for the second week in a row.

The first week of DVR numbers are in for Hannibal, and it did a 1.9 in the 18-49 demo in L+7. This was right about where I was hoping to see it, translating to around a 1.7 in L+3. I want to make sure the numbers stay similar next week (as the L+SD numbers went down in weeks 2 and 3) before making a true prediction. However, I think those numbers are very good news and give the show a pretty good shot at renewal as of this moment. If it ends up pulling in another 1.9 in L+7 with a 0.9 L+SD, I think it's definitely getting renewed. It's just too disturbing for the audience to watch right before bed.

I like Believe i think its in a very tough time slot to be in. With Resurrection and Walking Dead.

As far as Hannibal I'm not worried about it getting renewed because I think the show is so good that some network or cable tv or possibly Amazon or Netflix will continue the show.

A key thing to remember about the potential of it being picked up by someone else is that there could end up being compromises that wouldn't happen on NBC. I think one of the things that makes this show as special as it is is that it is doing things no one has ever done on network TV. If the Academy ignores this show after this season, again, they've lost all credibility.

Because of the DVR numbers, the groundbreaking nature of it, and the potential for prestige, I don't think NBC is giving this show up, especially since it's so well paired with Grimm on Friday nights (even if no one is watching it that way). I still think it has better numbers on Fridays than it would in a weeknight slot. There's absolutely no way that it being on Fridays can ever be considered a bad thing.

Hell, it took Breaking Bad three seasons to finally find an audience. It was all up from there.

It was a really expensive show, too. Hannibal probably costs half as much, or maybe a little more than half per episode (though to NBC, it's probably like a million dollar per episode property, if that).

I think the last show I can remember dropping my jaw as much as this one was the FOX show Wonderfalls, a show that was at least 4 or 5 years ahead of its time.

In my personal opinion Hannibal is the best show on tv right now.

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I can't believe this is true. I mean maybe she said something like this doing publicity for the show but she can't really mean it.

Who the hell commissioned that? Of course it was never going to be a success, but dammit I want to watch it.

Hahaha, it was awesome. It was truly special network TV at at a time when most network TV wasn't taking any kind of chances like that show. I think it got canceled something like 4 episodes in, but it was so loved by FOX that they made sure all episodes got out on DVD, which is pretty rare for a show (especially at that time) that barely lasted a month. I also guarantee you will probably love it, maybe kind of sort of. If you don't like it, don't blame me, but run to see it.

Bates Motel ratings sure seem to be dropping.

For sure, but it would still probably get renewed at a 0.6 on A&E. The show was so camp and dumb in the second episode this season that I think people are starting to have had enough of it. This just isn't the Norman Bates of the book/movies at all, from what we've seen. They took too much time getting him developed, when he had already been "developed" well before we ever should have seen him in this version of the TV show. I still haven't watched the third episode yet, but probably will later tonight.

Wonderfalls was tremendous
Dhavernas was magical.
If you have the opportunity, watch it.

One of those one season wonders that was too good to make it. (firefly, terriers, freaks and geeks)

Not even one season, though, I'm pretty sure they never aired all 13 episodes (even though 13 were made).

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Yup. iirc, they aired 3 or 4, then burned a couple off, then released the rest. It inspired my downloading tv shows off the internet (slowly!), and is the first I recall actively searching for.

I worked on the DVD for it, and I think we did something like 6 or 8 commentaries for it, all really good commentaries, too. One of the other interesting things about it is that FOX originally aired it out of order. I can't remember for sure, but I think they might not have even aired the Pilot originally. That show had an uncommonly strange existence.

It's funny that I mention that the last show I remember having my jaw dropped as often on network TV as Hannibal was Wonderfalls, which was also created by Fuller. I had forgotten that when I wrote it. It's a shame he's such a hit and miss guy, because he just has unbelievable talent with the ability to shake up the network TV landscape. It's funny to think what a whiny little a-hole he was over NBC not picking up his terrible The Munsters reboot. I'm guessing they thought Hannibal was a better property for him...lol. Imagine one season of Hannibal and 7 of 1313 Mockingbird Lane...no thanks.

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They should just reboot the show.

After Hannibal...lol. Caroline will be tied up for the time being (hope that's not an omen). I think that's a show that probably would have done pretty well on something like Showtime. If FX had been doing a lot of original programming at that time, the show certainly would have ended up there as opposed to FOX. Justified is certainly good enough to have been on FOX but it never would have survived there, which would have been a travesty.

I wonder how much of the original niche type programming ended up at FX due to Wonderfalls being so good, but having no audience. I think shows like Human Target, Lie To Me, and The Good Guys were all better suited to FX, but that's the way it goes.

I'm split on Hannibal.
I watched the first 2 episodes, but fell behind and deleted when it was tracking so badly ratings-wise. I never expected it to get picked up and become this juggernaut. I'm just not much into murder shows or gore. (Walking Dead and Justified aside)
So do I try to make up 15 episodes?

I'd say yes but gore doesn't bug me at all. It's really good tho.

Hannibal is one of the best shows on TV right now, so yes. I'm not into in your face horror, gore, or violence (Hannibal has lots of all of that), but I will never miss that show as long as it's on the air. Of shows that are airing right now that I'm watching, my three favorites so far this year are True Detective, Justified, and Hannibal (Person of Interest is right there in this conversation, but something about all of those three I mentioned makes me think it will be passed by all three of them by the end of their respective seasons). Right now, TD and Justified are fighting for my top spot of the year, and the way Justified has shaped up through most of this season makes me think it will be my top show of the year by the end of it.

Long story short, Hannibal is highly recommended even if you don't like the genre. I know very little of the backstory for the show other than what's pervaded pop culture from it for the last 20+ years. It's not in my wheelhouse for what I watch, but I love it for a number of reasons. I would not recommend marathoning it. Just put an episode in here or there during your normal watching until you catch up. The way it's shot is intended to burn images into your brain (a big reason I don't watch horror is that I retain that kind of imagery in my brain), so if you watch a lot of it in a row, you would be sure to have tons of really bad nightmares if you're not into that kind of stuff.

I kind of liked the Munsters reboot. Obviously it was nothing like the original show and I think comparing it to the original makes it look worse than it was. To me it looked like something that had a lot of potential. There were some great actors and some good ideas, but also some not so great actors and ideas. If they'd had time to find a balance then I think it could've been a fun, inventive and original show. It was 'different' at least...