Next season would be better if hustlers were drug dealers rappers & used car salesmen instead of ****ing bell hops.

Exactly. When I first heard "hustlers" I had an image of con men and assorted ne'er-do-wells. Then to find out it's "people with strong work ethics" zzzzzzzz....

Michaela the least butt hurt jury member. She really is a different person when she wasn't competing any longer.

A decent amount are on Amazon Prime.

1, 3, 12 - 28

Could also do a Hulu 30 day trial and binge through a few seasons.

Brad really messed up at the end. He should of sent home Sarah obv. If you're not going to be smart and keep Tai raging out on him and then sending him to jury as your enemy is a dumb move. He really didnt put any weight on who was going to vote for who in jury. He was a comp beast but was lacking on the social game.

Sarah played ok i guess. Not the most entertaining or greatest social player ive seen on here but a worthy winner. Shes lucky that Brad kept her obv but you need luck to win in survivor.

Loved Troyzan strategy of going for 3rd place all season. I dont think he realized till the very end he had no chance. He seems like a nice guy anyways.

Yep

Yep

WRONG IDIOT

Sarah's conservative grandmother got to meet Zeke #GameChangers

I think Troyzan's game is under appreciated. I don't mean to say it was a fantastic game but people have definitely done less and won the game. He was originally on Mana and when the game went to three tribes he was all on his own so he went and found the idol. He then spent the rest of the premerge developing relationships so that at the merge he was in a great position within a strong alliance. He did all the right things to get to the end and I can't blame him for considering the possibility that the jury would be bitter towards both Sarah and Brad.

Agreed. I don't get the Troyzan hate. Seems like a good hearted dude, who could actually win if he was with unlikable finalists and facing a butthurt jury. (aka Samoa)

Monica? You mean Sierra right?

I meant Tai, not Tia, and I def meant Monica (Culpepper)

It was bitterness. He lacked strategically cos he was so mad at Tai for some reason. Lost him a million prolly.

Sarah, Tai and Cirie had the best overall games this season IMO.

So Brad is looked down on for only being good at the physical side of the game, while Cirie is a favorite for only being good at the social side of the game? Do I have that right?

No you don't.

Cirie is genius and the social and strategic part. Brad is good at only the physical which is the least important part of the game.

It all depends on the cast

Brad may have won more votes if he argued how he was the biggest threat, yet was in the wrong side of the vote but still made it to F3... he's a dork though... Survivor killed his soul

Tai played awful. He had tons of jury members who hated him. No way he could of won. Not to mention he spent the end of the game like a crackhead looking for a fix. The fix being someone to be his ally after he cut the throat of everybody left in the game.

Being a comp beast has tons of value. Comp beast have won before lacking in other areas. He would of been fine if he didnt take the one person who could beat him. His social game wasnt great by any means but on a standard survivor season he would of won.

Kudos to Sarah for being downlow about being everybodys best friend. Still was 2nd dumbest choice ive seen outside of taking Tony.

Cirie isn't a genius. She's probably woat all time at challenges which is why she usually gets kept around.

Physical challenges are not the least important part. In fact all Brad had to do was vote out Sara at F4 and he almost certainly wins a million bucks, based solely on challenges.

If anything social game is overrated. Not because it's unimportant, but because anyone who happens to make it deep a couple of times is ascribed some mystical social powers.

Cirie finished 4th, 3rd, 17th, and 6th in her 4 seasons. Not bad but lol@genius.

Sarah made some stupid deal with him and got his wedding ring... he was done right there

Wow. That was like a half dozen AIDSy posts in a row. wtf.

1. Cirie is very good at the social aspect of the game, which IS the most important part. If people like you, want to work with you, feel like they trust you, feel like they've connected with you, etc. then there is less pressure to have to win challenges, or look for HIIs, or whatever. And in the end, people will tend to vote for who they liked the best moreso than perceived game play, or challenge prowess. Cirie's biggest downfall is that others realize this about her at this point, so no one wants to go to the end with her.

2. Most on here feel like Brad played a solid ass game this season, but played terribly in the last episode. His crappy FTC performance, bullying Tai, and not realizing how big of a threat Sarah was, fueled by some random need to get back at Tai for some perceived backstabbing was all awful, and he essentially punted the million in that last 48 hours. His play earlier was great, always keeping a cool head especially in the (gnarly) face of psycho Debbie, and keeping a core group of people around him where he was the social hub was excellent gameplay.

You're completely wrong.

**** off.

That's some high quality debatin' there, hoss. You make some great points.

Brad's strat game was fine...until he took Sarah over Tai. So I see him being good at physical and strat, not great(but not poor) at the social game. Cirie was very good at social, good at strat until she went all fancy play with Sarah's advantage.

So I don't see one being much better than the other.

If winning challenges should be taken into account, that means you think Ozzy is pretty good at Survivor?

To me, winning immunity is just a tool to get you further in the game, so you have more time to work on your relationships/alliances down the line. If you're in a spot where winning immunity is your only out week after week, you're playing a very weak survivor game imo.

If you take 2 hypothetical super humans, 1 that is extremely athletic/puzzle smart and will win every single challenge but is socially ******ed and just sits there being awkward, and another that is a super social/smart person that can persuade people and get into their heads but he's overweight and can't solve a puzzle for the life of him, I'd still be much more impressed/intrigued by person 2.

I guess Survivor is just really a social game to me.