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05-19-2012 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Who cares
I think if they foreshadowed a Kim-Alicia showdown, having Alicia talk about her end-game strategy before the episode before the finale there would have been more suspense to the second half of the season.
I agree, editing to more a showdown between the two could have been good.... I wonder if it was possible.... Because at the "showdown" time, Alicia wasn't against Kim, she was, in fact, under the impression they were together...

It still drives me crazy... At that point of the game, how do these other players allow the most powerful player to also be the swing vote.... Crazy!!!... gg Kim...lol
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05-20-2012 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BonafiedGreat
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Um, I have been a 2+2 member since Febuary. I have been backed by several 2+2ers. All of whom know my real name and my job. I would be happy to get one of them to come here and verify it. I also am not some random person with 2 posts. I have been an active contributer in the TV ratings thread for months and stated several times that I work in TV. Going back months. This would be a pretty huge scam.

I think you just don't like the reality of what I have said about the show. Everything I say is 100% true. I haven't contradicted myself at all. I have answered every question I could open and honestly.

I am not being done a favor by answering questions. I get no money for this, this doesn't help me at all. I actually put myself in harms way. And for someone with 8 posts who hasn't contributed to this thread at all, it is really sad you are going to ruin it for everyone. Because as I said earlier I won't take disrespect. I will just go get one of my backers to come here and verify I am who I say I am and that will be all. I guess you can answer everyones questions since you seem to have such great insight
It wasnt an intent to attack your character. I wasnt convinced so I let it be known. Im interested in your responses to quesitons itt hence why Im poasting also. I will try to use more neutral words if the previous ones cause a stir.
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05-20-2012 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by eltong
It wasnt an intent to attack your character. I wasnt convinced so I let it be known. Im interested in your responses to quesitons itt hence why Im poasting also. I will try to use more neutral words if the previous ones cause a stir.
Honestly your post was the epitome of internet douche-bag.
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05-20-2012 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by esad
Honestly your post was the epitome of internet douche-bag.
That is insulting sir. Im more than ever convinced most of you would go on the show and wouldve handed boston rob or coach etc the check.

Last edited by eltong; 05-20-2012 at 01:39 AM.
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05-20-2012 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by eltong
That is insulting sir. Im more than ever convinced most of you would go on the show and wouldve handed boston rob or coach etc the check.
It was insulting, and yet you continue with the internet douchebaggery?

What is wrong with you? We have an excellent opportunity to ask questions of a man who has worked on the favorite show of many posters itt. You come in and are a giant bag of dicks. Either act like a normal person, or go somewhere else.
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05-20-2012 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Bonified:

What about a Celebrity Survivor? I'm sure it's been considered, but I guess it would be difficult to set up.
I think there was some reality show that had the C and D level celebrities on it, and it was a flop.

I would be curious as to which contestant over the years would be considered the biggest surprise in a good way (my guess would be Cirie) and which was the biggest disappointment.

Also, who would be considered the best contestant for the show (in terms of ratings/watchability). Russel or Boston ROb would come to mind here.

Thanks.
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05-20-2012 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by eltong
It wasnt an intent to attack your character...
Like hell it wasn't. You're that typical Internet ass hole who thinks they know everything and when they run into someone with actual life experience they have to try and show how clever they think they are by discounting or doubting the veracity of it.

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Originally Posted by esad
Honestly your post was the epitome of internet douche-bag.
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Originally Posted by eltong
That is insulting sir. Im more than ever convinced most of you would go on the show and wouldve handed boston rob or coach etc the check.
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Originally Posted by esad
Honestly your post was the epitome of internet douche-bag.

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05-20-2012 , 09:43 AM
I'm not even close to the level of knowledge of most of the reg posters ITT, but it seems to me that one potential solution to the predictable post-merge gameplay of the past few seasons would be the return of the 2-person FTC. Final 3 alliances are much, much easier to maintain through the end, whereas a final 2 and the car reward where the winner only gets to take one person along at the final 5 make the chances of a flip there much better, which in turn heightens the potential for bigger moves at final 7, and then 9.
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05-20-2012 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by brianr
I'm not even close to the level of knowledge of most of the reg posters ITT, but it seems to me that one potential solution to the predictable post-merge gameplay of the past few seasons would be the return of the 2-person FTC. Final 3 alliances are much, much easier to maintain through the end, whereas a final 2 and the car reward where the winner only gets to take one person along at the final 5 make the chances of a flip there much better, which in turn heightens the potential for bigger moves at final 7, and then 9.
Many people has suggested this, even past players. It also has the benefit of ameliorating a bitter jury as there is often no third-wheel GOAT that they can vote for out of spite.
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05-20-2012 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by brianr
I'm not even close to the level of knowledge of most of the reg posters ITT, but it seems to me that one potential solution to the predictable post-merge gameplay of the past few seasons would be the return of the 2-person FTC. Final 3 alliances are much, much easier to maintain through the end, whereas a final 2 and the car reward where the winner only gets to take one person along at the final 5 make the chances of a flip there much better, which in turn heightens the potential for bigger moves at final 7, and then 9.
This is an extremely smart idea and you should feel smart.

F3 lends itself to such a situation where if three people all know they're going together, the game is pretty much decided after the F6 TC (barring an IC run). It's also worth noting that the two seasons that have deviated from the F3 format since its inception in S13 are FvF and Tocantins, both of which are widely regarded as elite seasons. Compare that to every season that has featured a F3 format and the only consensus elite is HvV and I'd go so far as to say that China and Cook Islands are the only other B+ or better seasons among the rest.
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05-20-2012 , 10:58 AM
I wonder if Jeff's "A return to Great television" quote has anything to do with a possible F2 next season.
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05-20-2012 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
I wonder if Jeff's "A return to Great television" quote has anything to do with a possible F2 next season.
I think it has to do with penner being awesome.
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05-20-2012 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cstone
This is an extremely smart idea and you should feel smart.

F3 lends itself to such a situation where if three people all know they're going together, the game is pretty much decided after the F6 TC (barring an IC run). It's also worth noting that the two seasons that have deviated from the F3 format since its inception in S13 are FvF and Tocantins, both of which are widely regarded as elite seasons. Compare that to every season that has featured a F3 format and the only consensus elite is HvV and I'd go so far as to say that China and Cook Islands are the only other B+ or better seasons among the rest.
FvF was intended to have a F3 though, and everyone in the cast played under that assumption, so it's not the best example. I agree with the basic point, but a F2 makes the FIC far too important. It's up to you whether you think that tradeoff is worth it.

And yeah, I think Jeff's quote probably has more to do with 3 tribes and Penner.
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05-20-2012 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
I agree with the basic point, but a F2 makes the FIC far too important. It's up to you whether you think that tradeoff is worth it.
Im not sure why you think having a super intense battle to death is a bad thing?

Hell, the F4 challenge in SP was INTENSE, and the final IC SHOULD have that kind of intensity, and you don't see it going into these F3 matchups.
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05-20-2012 , 12:18 PM
I think Tocantins was designed to have a F3 too. I think they switched to a F2 once Joe was removed from the game.

I think it was suppose to be a F3 with seven people on the jury, but when Joe left they didn't want six people on the jury so they switched it to a F2.

It makes sense with the challenges. That F4 spider immunity challenge looked awesome, and the F3 immunity challenge was so odd.

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05-20-2012 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Who cares
While I loved watching Alicia this season, I wished they had shown her to be more of a strategist. Sounds like she really did have power til she let go of Tarzan. She had Tarzan's and Christina's vote for sure, could have possibly had ties with Leaf from the NuManono days, and had a relationship with Kat that potentially could've gotten her on her side (although I doubt Kat turns on Kim). I think if they foreshadowed a Kim-Alicia showdown, having Alicia talk about her end-game strategy before the episode before the finale there would have been more suspense to the second half of the season.

By the time Kim talked about the two sides within the Salani alliance it was a foregone conclusion to the viewers which side would win out and that Kim was the winner.

Not to mention how great it would be see more of Alicia talking about how great of a player she is before Kim out levels her.
Alicia wasn't the brilliant mastermind she made herself out to be during FTC. I am glad she didn't win, I really think that would have been the icing on the cake for a horrible season. She said alot of other things that didn't make the air.

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@ eltong: stop posting.
Dont worry, I won't let one troll ruin it for everyone.

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Originally Posted by BayouRock
I agree, editing to more a showdown between the two could have been good.... I wonder if it was possible.... Because at the "showdown" time, Alicia wasn't against Kim, she was, in fact, under the impression they were together...

It still drives me crazy... At that point of the game, how do these other players allow the most powerful player to also be the swing vote.... Crazy!!!... gg Kim...lol
Look, the show is heavily edited. We could have made Chelsea look like a swing vote, or Tarzan be the mastermind. It was put like that to enhance Kims game to the viewers. The F3 was predetermined after Tarzan went home.


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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I think there was some reality show that had the C and D level celebrities on it, and it was a flop.

I would be curious as to which contestant over the years would be considered the biggest surprise in a good way (my guess would be Cirie) and which was the biggest disappointment.

Also, who would be considered the best contestant for the show (in terms of ratings/watchability). Russel or Boston ROb would come to mind here.

Thanks.
This is the thing, Boston Rob was way before my time. I think he has tons of fans just like Russell has tons of fans. I think RI Boston Rob was a great player for the show. Tons of fans were satisfied with that season because their favorite survivor ever finally after 9 Years (?) took down the title.

Russell though I think was also great for the show. It is very rare you find someone iconic in survivor history in the 24th season of the show. That was really an amazing find.

I can just name who I think was the best for TV in each season I was a part of. Ill name the guy and the girl!

Samoa: Russell, and Laura.

HVV: Russell, Sandra (Honorable mention to Parvati)

Nicaragua: Jud, Holly

RI: Boston Rob, Andrea. Honorable mention to Mike Chiesl who would have thrived in any other season!
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Originally Posted by Dominic
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What about a Celebrity Survivor? I'm sure it's been considered, but I guess it would be difficult to set up.
Never going to happen!

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Originally Posted by master3004
Im not sure why you think having a super intense battle to death is a bad thing?

Hell, the F4 challenge in SP was INTENSE, and the final IC SHOULD have that kind of intensity, and you don't see it going into these F3 matchups.
We wan't drama at the end of every season. We do want to people battling for F4 immunity hard. What we don't want though is once someone loses the F3 to be a foregone conclusion.

I think Samoa, South Pacific is an example of the kind of atmosphere we want at the F4 challenge. And Nicaragua being the atmosphere because no one knew what Jud was going to do!

I think the most exciting ending was probably Nicaragua. Since at the F4 Challenge everyone was trying to beat Jud and no one knew who he would bring to the F4. Also the audience not being able to really predict the winner off that F3 was definitely good. We want a carbon copy of that ending but with better charachters.
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05-20-2012 , 12:49 PM
Thanks Bonafied for not letting one idiot ruin it for the rest of us!
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05-20-2012 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
FvF was intended to have a F3 though, and everyone in the cast played under that assumption, so it's not the best example. I agree with the basic point, but a F2 makes the FIC far too important. It's up to you whether you think that tradeoff is worth it.

And yeah, I think Jeff's quote probably has more to do with 3 tribes and Penner.
It doesn't even necessarily matter whether the players knew it would be F2 in Micronesia in terms of what it adds to a season. In Tocantins clearly they knew it was F2 as soon as Joe wasn't a juror. And obviously these seasons would both still be good with F3 and many seasons with F2 were relatively boring.

Bringing back the car reward with one person going along on the trip would be sick.
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05-20-2012 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
It was insulting, and yet you continue with the internet douchebaggery?

What is wrong with you? We have an excellent opportunity to ask questions of a man who has worked on the favorite show of many posters itt. You come in and are a giant bag of dicks. Either act like a normal person, or go somewhere else.
A bag of dicks you say. You know what that means, proceed..

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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Like hell it wasn't. You're that typical Internet ass hole who thinks they know everything and when they run into someone with actual life experience they have to try and show how clever they think they are by discounting or doubting the veracity of it.
You are the typical internet ******* that assumes.

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Originally Posted by BonafiedGreat
Dont worry, I won't let one troll ruin it for everyone.
I did not resort to name calling. My comments were directed at the show and one about credibility towards you since you do use an alias like everyone on the internet. I feel disrespected.
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05-20-2012 , 01:53 PM
Good lord man, just step up, admit you were being an ass and leave it be.
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05-20-2012 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Good lord man, just step up, admit you were being an ass and leave it be.
As opposed to what you are doing? I can admit when Im wrong. I feel that I have been wronged.
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05-20-2012 , 02:15 PM
Nobody cares that you feel you've been 'wronged'.

People, just put him on ignore and leave it be.
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05-20-2012 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
Nobody cares that you feel you've been 'wronged'.

People, just put him on ignore and leave it be.
Can a mod please ban eltong?
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05-20-2012 , 02:26 PM
How was the thread this season? I didn't keep up with it after everyone and their mother "thought" sophie was the winner at the start of last season and held with it. I know I had mentioned that she looked to be in a good spot if things went her way being in the middle of a big alliance, but flip flopped a bunch all season. Not that everyone that had her was suspicious of being spoilered or anything, it just felt a little spoiler-y in general.

Even though it was a pretty "we're throwing this in your face because we're too lazy to make a more compelling story" type of season (similar to RI), did it ever feel "known" or what?

Trying to see if I wanna come back for next season haha
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05-20-2012 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Can a mod please ban eltong?
I mean you don't need to ban a guy because he wasn't completely believing the guy was legit. He was rude, not the first nor last that's gonna happen though. Relax br0s
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