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05-17-2012 , 06:41 PM
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I wasn't clicking these until today, at which point I gave in just to see what was up. They're clearly all crap. I don't know why people even reference these rumors tbh. Do people really believe everything that's "rumored" by random people (ex. vyk telling me that Kimbo Slice and Carrie Prejean were on a season)?
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05-17-2012 , 06:42 PM
I agree with JB91 that Survivor needs more DREAMZ.
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05-17-2012 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by K.O.S.
Do people really believe everything that's "rumored" by random people (ex. vyk telling me that Kimbo Slice and Carrie Prejean were on a season)?
haha I remember that

I passed down that rumored info after you asked

The source of that particular casting rumor was actually credible though, as it was the same person who had correctly spoiled the last 3 seasons before that one
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05-17-2012 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
I actually really enjoyed South Pacific, sans the t3-4 episodes in the middle with the Pagonging after the Cochran flip. The cast was much more enjoyable. People seemed to want to play the game, and it certainly wasn't a "looks only" cast
If Cochran actually manned up in South Pacific and everyone drew rocks, not only does the post-merge SP gameplay improve dramatacially, but he has a very legitimate shot to win the game (provided Savaii ships the 5/7 purple rock draw)

Same thing could be said about RI and One World in some respect, where revisionist history has to make you at least consider the possibility of what could of been if the other side was the one that was able to gain control during the merge
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05-17-2012 , 07:13 PM
We've had 3 straight seasons of great and entertaining pre-merge gameplay, marred by boring, and strategically bland post-merge pagongings

If Survivor can figure out how to prevent the recent trend of systematic pagongings during the next few seasons, I think that the ratings can only improve as the audience is presented by a better and more exciting final product
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05-17-2012 , 07:41 PM
i agree with vyk. have they ever considered cross-tribal rewards? instead of your tribe winning rewards, maybe 1 or 2 individuals from each tribe could win reward like a feast at a mutual location. you might be able to get some cross-tribal scheming pre-merge/pre-swap, even moreso than in One World.
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05-17-2012 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
We've had 3 straight seasons of great and entertaining pre-merge gameplay, marred by boring, and strategically bland post-merge pagongings

If Survivor can figure out how to prevent the recent trend of systematic pagongings during the next few seasons, I think that the ratings can only improve as the audience is presented by a better and more exciting final product
I think having three tribes of 6 until the F11 may help with that. At that point the two weaker tribes can group together preventing a pagoning but with no real solid alliance.

Rewards could be divided up with the winner picking one each from the other two or something along those lines.
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05-17-2012 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ajv174
i agree with vyk. have they ever considered cross-tribal rewards? instead of your tribe winning rewards, maybe 1 or 2 individuals from each tribe could win reward like a feast at a mutual location. you might be able to get some cross-tribal scheming pre-merge/pre-swap, even moreso than in One World.
I really like this idea, because not only should it strengthen post-merge play with pre-existing relationships being formed, it would create more tension pre-merge with people within their own tribes being jealous of the winners etc.

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I think having three tribes of 6 until the F11 may help with that. At that point the two weaker tribes can group together preventing a pagoning but with no real solid alliance.
True, good point.
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05-17-2012 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
We've had 3 straight seasons of great and entertaining pre-merge gameplay, marred by boring, and strategically bland post-merge pagongings

If Survivor can figure out how to prevent the recent trend of systematic pagongings during the next few seasons, I think that the ratings can only improve as the audience is presented by a better and more exciting final product
Maybe they could let Donald Trump do the vote offs instead of using the current system. Have a team of analysts tell him what their information suggest would be the best for ratings and make the decisions based on that. I still think the product will be hit or miss for the readers of this thread because while a majority of Americans loved Russell, they also loved Jane and Rupert.
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05-17-2012 , 10:10 PM
someone please explain to me how Jane won fan favorite "by the largest margin in the show's history"

maybe I'm just not visualizing the actual Survivor demographics correctly
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05-17-2012 , 11:49 PM
I'd like to see a poker player on survivor. I like JRB, but he being the only real poker player on after all these years is screwy (some would argue that he too isn't a reall poker player...lol). I think they would make good contributions to the entertainment value. JRB was pretty entertaining....

I wonder if a big name player could navigate through the game?

Last edited by BayouRock; 05-18-2012 at 12:12 AM.
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05-18-2012 , 02:31 AM
+1 for Dreamz-like players. Some ppl might not like what he did, but it was Yau-man that was tryna pimp him by givin him a car. The correct play is to screw Yauman over.

Kim played very well but its dissapointing that ppl like Sab, Chelsea and Alicia didnt go FTW and vote her out at F7, F6 or whenever they had a chance(once Troyzan was gone)
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05-18-2012 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
someone please explain to me how Jane won fan favorite "by the largest margin in the show's history"

maybe I'm just not visualizing the actual Survivor demographics correctly
Actual answer involves something about mortagegate and her keeping her mouth shut I've heard.




another subject:

i was searching for something in the survivor draft we did last year and came across this post and laughed due to next season

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Totally agree. Skupin and Swan need a second chance...like, for real.



we should do another one this summer (and if one gets started and im not around in this thread plz in me and pm me )
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05-18-2012 , 12:22 PM
Lol so Kat responded to a message I sent her on facebook congratulating her on her FTC speech, etc. I mentioned to her that a little birdy had told me that she would be on S26 and she asked me who the little birdy is. Probably she just wasnt actually invited and I gave her false hope.
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05-18-2012 , 12:40 PM
The horror Survivor season for me is when there is no one to root for and the bright spot is that the best player successfully drags the biggest dbag of the season to the end with him and wins resulting in the second worst horror for me...that some @$$hole who I don't like wins the season. I know it's ironic that the bright spot is also a blight on the season, but I like good game play rewarded and I like a happy ending and sometimes you can't have it all.

They can't all be Tocantins, but thankfully not too many of them are Thailand.
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05-18-2012 , 01:18 PM
Bonafied, are you still here? If so: Are the FTC's cut way down like normal TC's or do we pretty much get to see all of the Final Tribal?

Has there ever been any talk of having 24/7 cams on PPV or a pay channel like Showtime, like Big Brother does?
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05-18-2012 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Bonafied, are you still here? If so: Are the FTC's cut way down like normal TC's or do we pretty much get to see all of the Final Tribal?

Has there ever been any talk of having 24/7 cams on PPV or a pay channel like Showtime, like Big Brother does?
This would require them to edit the shows on the fly and air them weekly without knowing the winner.

Never going to happen
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05-18-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
This would require them to edit the shows on the fly and air them weekly without knowing the winner.

Never going to happen
oh, yeah, duh, I wasn't thinking...
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05-18-2012 , 05:52 PM
in for Survivor Draft 2.0 fa sho. Kind of sucks we never had a conclusion to the first one.
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05-18-2012 , 06:39 PM
As I scour youtube for old seasons I haven't watched, I'm coming across all these other countries' versions of Survivor. Has anyone watched any of these? Any recommendations?
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05-18-2012 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Morning
+1 for Dreamz-like players. Some ppl might not like what he did, but it was Yau-man that was tryna pimp him by givin him a car. The correct play is to screw Yauman over.

Kim played very well but its dissapointing that ppl like Sab, Chelsea and Alicia didnt go FTW and vote her out at F7, F6 or whenever they had a chance(once Troyzan was gone)
While it was kind of boring, I did take some satisfaction in seeing the women and tarzan get picked off and Kim end up winning, after Troyzan told them all that was what was going to happen at tribal council in the THIS IS MY ISLAND episode. Shame he had to turn all lame butthurt at FTC.

Also, I couldn't be less interested in Black Russell coming back. Don't like or dislike him, just thought he was really meh.
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05-18-2012 , 07:10 PM
Coming soon (early June-ish) to The Dom & Colin Podcast...


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05-18-2012 , 07:11 PM
ZOMG!
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05-18-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BayouRock
I'd like to see a poker player on survivor. I like JRB, but he being the only real poker player on after all these years is screwy (some would argue that he too isn't a reall poker player...lol). I think they would make good contributions to the entertainment value. JRB was pretty entertaining....

I wonder if a big name player could navigate through the game?
I wish one would apply. I know when JRB was casted that they asked Matusow and Negreanu to be on before him.

This is not a spoiler at all so don't take it as one. But there hasn't been a professional poker play in a while. I think it is probably time for another one to be on.

I think Hellmuth would be really good for the show. I wish I was working on the show when they were casting China, I could have suggested some people a lot better than JRB!

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Lol so Kat responded to a message I sent her on facebook congratulating her on her FTC speech, etc. I mentioned to her that a little birdy had told me that she would be on S26 and she asked me who the little birdy is. Probably she just wasnt actually invited and I gave her false hope.
Please don't do this to people who have been on the show. Honestly 90% of them think people who do it are creepy superfans. The other 10% are desperate for attention. Kat is a very nice girl, and if you aren't in the know about what is going on don't say things like that. And please don't post that on here because she could get in trouble for commenting on an All Stars season. She is honestly a very nice girl, most survivors are really creeped out when people do that. The other 10% want attention. Then there are the 1 or 2 like Kat who do it because they want to be nice and love the fans.

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Originally Posted by marknfw
Bonafied, are you still here? If so: Are the FTC's cut way down like normal TC's or do we pretty much get to see all of the Final Tribal?

Has there ever been any talk of having 24/7 cams on PPV or a pay channel like Showtime, like Big Brother does?
I am here. I just don't really know what to respond to. I mean if it doesn't say question for Bonafied and you just put a question mark I don't really know if its for me or not. I also though am responding to thoughts and giving my input. I love talking with you guys. My throat has been sore today and I have been trying to cure it LOL! Sorry

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The horror Survivor season for me is when there is no one to root for and the bright spot is that the best player successfully drags the biggest dbag of the season to the end with him and wins resulting in the second worst horror for me...that some @$$hole who I don't like wins the season. I know it's ironic that the bright spot is also a blight on the season, but I like good game play rewarded and I like a happy ending and sometimes you can't have it all.

They can't all be Tocantins, but thankfully not too many of them are Thailand.
What you are talking about really has never happened in any season I have watched. Maybe in Survivor 1 I know Hatch was a big charachter, I didn't watch it though. But ya it is hard to find that balance. I rememember when Fabio won half of the people were really happy because he was a charachter. Then the other half were crying how bad the season was because he didn't have "Great Gameplay".

I think when a charachter wins it is the best. Because obviously they did something right to make it that far and win. Sandra is a good example. She isnt some master strategist, but she can navigate her way to the end and is a big charachter.

For example on the flip side, Kim won last season. And I know the editors desperately tried to find good examples of her just being goofy and stuff. They couldn't find really anything that was good.

When they cast they want a good balance. People have been messaging me asking me what to say in there tapes. They want people who are fun and charachters. They also want you to know though what you are doing. Submitting a tape where you outline your whole strategy is not gonna work and just talk about past players isn't gonna work.

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Originally Posted by master3004
This would require them to edit the shows on the fly and air them weekly without knowing the winner.

Never going to happen
Impossible to do. The equipment needed to edit the show usually isn't availible in the country that is being shot in. Also we have 24 hours of footage to sift through. It takes a LONG time. On Big Brother they have people watching the screens all day and they know when something exciting happens.

All the editors are told is who the winner is and the theme of the season. Editing is by far the hardest job in telivision!

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I think Sabrina and Chelsea were by far bigger casting mistakes than Kim. When you have people that will value friendships over the money then things are going to be boring. From what Chelsea has said in interviews it sounds like she basically just campaigned for people to vote for Kim at FTC.

They need to cast more people that are simply desperate for the money. I want to see Dreamz level of desperation, not people that believe the integrity of their word is worth $1m. Players need to either want to win because they are absolute competitors or want to win because the feel like they need the money. Players that are simply there for the experience pretty much suck from a gameplay point of view.
I don't know. I think they all were kind of duds. Pregame the producers know you better than you know yourself. They knew Kim was gonna be a gamebot. What they didn't know was that she had no personality.

I really can't comment about Chelsea and Sabrina because a lot of stuff didn't make the air. But I will tell you that they both definitely didn't live up to expectation....

The only people I think who producers were impressed with were Troyzan, Alicia, and Kat!

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Originally Posted by vyk07
haha I remember that

I passed down that rumored info after you asked

The source of that particular casting rumor was actually credible though, as it was the same person who had correctly spoiled the last 3 seasons before that one
This is all I will say about spoilers. No one knows a damn thing. And anyone who obtains these spoilers are helping someone break a multi million dollar contract. That every cast, and crew memeber are signed to. If these "Spoilers" actually cared about you they wouldn't be trying to get information from you. You can get in A LOT of trouble.

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Originally Posted by vyk07
If Cochran actually manned up in South Pacific and everyone drew rocks, not only does the post-merge SP gameplay improve dramatacially, but he has a very legitimate shot to win the game (provided Savaii ships the 5/7 purple rock draw)

Same thing could be said about RI and One World in some respect, where revisionist history has to make you at least consider the possibility of what could of been if the other side was the one that was able to gain control during the merge
Cochran had no shot to win the game. There is no scenario except a F2 with Edna where I think Cochran may have won. He was a great charachter, but I really don't get all the Cochran love. He was drawing dead from the merge.

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someone please explain to me how Jane won fan favorite "by the largest margin in the show's history"

maybe I'm just not visualizing the actual Survivor demographics correctly
Because middle America also watches this show and they empathize with old ladies who are widows I guess. Who were the other choices? Holly said on the show her husband was a politician. Middle aged and up didn't really relate to Jud. I can't think of anyone else who might have won. That is why she won.
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05-18-2012 , 07:27 PM
Are you saying Sab was cast as the sassy black girl?

Cause i had her as first boot for exactly that reason. She never played to that stereotype though.
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