Do they put up any deleted scenes any where?

I don't think she really needed to think deeper than this. I think once you know that you're alliance is not splitting votes and the other alliance has an idol and you are their target the best play is always to vote out the person who is least likely to have an idol played on them.

Also what's up with Phillip butchering everyone's name?
Frenchquesca, Reynolds and he even mispronounces Andrea's name every time.
That has to be like the highest level of social unawareness you can achieve.

Can't even begin express how much more enjoyable this season would have been up to this point without Phillip.
Pleeeease don't cast him again, CBS!
Lost cause, I know.



Andrea freaking out (nothing more to it imo) high point of the season for me.
She's so adorable.

Eddie spooked Andrea. She was afraid of idol play. Knew they had at least one. And decided that she didn't want to get bounced by an idol play. Michael was the only player they knew didn't have an idol and probably wouldn't have one played on his behalf. So she wanted to play it safe and vote Michael.

But here is the thing. She knew Malcolm was lying to her all along and they were planning on voting....Phillip? or whoever and she was fine with her own team's plan before Eddie spooked her by mentioning her name.

Trying to hang onto these idols is the demise of this counter alliance. They are letting themselves get whittled off till their idols are just one hit wonders that can't be put to good use.

I guess it's not as complicated as I was thinking but once Andrea gets info from Eddie then the plan to get out Malcolm becomes too risky for her.

I think beyond just being scared at the prospect of being voted out she used her read on Malcolm to figure it was too likely he would figure things out and get to play an idol. She did remark on how well he lies.

I think the fact she realized there was a way safer route in Michael and was able to execute a change late in the day speaks to her ability at the game and her position within her alliance. She just moved way up my power rankings.

Decent chance that SRU planned that out beforehand as a bluff to get Malcolm to play an idol imo.

Her getting scared is fine, but...see above. I find it hard to believe SRU didn't suspect Malcolm either had an idol or could get Reynold to give one to him.

EDIT: To clarify, I think Andrea getting scared that she would go home is totally fine and likely makes it arguably a smart decision (for her and only her) to vote for Michael. Paranoid or not, her read of Eddie's information was correct, so her best defense was to not vote for Malcolm so she wouldn't go home. Plus, booting Michael >>> booting Eddie for her, so it seems fine/correct to me for Andrea to just take the safe route.

The biggest mystery here is why Malcolm went to the super-loyal Christian and the woman they voted for last TC instead of Erik and Brenda who have actually been on the wrong end of a Stealth-R-Us vote before.

The problem is they don't really need to know if Malcolm has an idol at this point. It'll always be a lingering, strong possibility (remember the beach he got it from was theirs, and none of them have it, so...), and even if they don't think he has one now doesn't mean he can't "find" one later. So it's unlikely they'll walk into it at this point, and even if they do, they're still at a hard 5-4 numbers disadvantage.
No real possibilities here. I've gotten pretty cynical of "NTOS" but even still she's been crying all season, and it's not even like if she has a fullblown breakdown it would result in anything more than a quit.

No. Never. I also don't know why people keep counting Erik in Malcolm's corner.

Thought Andreas read and moves were great too. Getting the info she needed from Eddie (thinking with little Eddie obviously) and getting her alliance to switch to the "safe" vote.

As Malcolm made a great play and got unlucky, Andrea made a good play and got extra lucky with an idol getting burned while voting out a fan/bro alliance member.

Yea, I already said it, but Malcolm had an awful ep before tribal.

Andrea was super paranoid and blew up a plan she agreed to because her name was mentioned as the other side's potential target. She was fine with their plan when she knew Reynold had an idol and could play it (he showed it to Dawn). And only got panicky when she found out that she was the target. However, she was at least right about picking Michael because he was an auxiliary bro and unlikely to have an idol or have one played on his behalf. ***The reason the idol got played on Malcolm happened in the future, which I have a hard time giving Andrea credit for divining ahead of time because she could have figured out on day one that Phillip running his fing mouth might be a problem for her eventually but she aligned with him anyway.

Apparently Erik won't talk to anybody about strategy. There's a good chance he tried to talked to Erik and got nothing.

Only thing I know about Brenda is that it's now 8 empty episodes in a row.

Andrea doesn't have to be worried about Reynold giving Malcolm an idol, she has to be worried Malcolm found one on the beach he was on for 15 days when no one else in their group found one. The Michael vote was a no-brainer really, I'm not really sure why people think there was some pressing urgency to get Malcolm out right this minute.

Of course Andrea is going to abandon the plan once her name is brought up. Why? Because if they went after anyone else in her alliance, then it was actually advantageous for her to let it happen. The fans would have been out at least one idol, her alliance would retain majority, and it would save her a TC later on in the game.

I feel like people aren't taking my side seriously because I'm an Andrea fan. If she's not supposed to get scared and flip the vote when she finds out she could get idol'd, what's her play? Continue to just try to dupe Malcolm/Eddie and pray that it works? That's fine if so, but then why aren't we crediting her for making the right decision? Yes, it happened after the fact, but we don't know it wouldn't have gone that same way.

Had Andrea not been paranoid, then gone home when Malcolm read the situation perfectly, we'd be bashing her for not taking the "obvious" route, no? So then how can we not give her credit for 1) saving herself, 2) burning an idol, and 3) maintaining her entire alliance? Malcolm thinks she's the leader and wanted her out, so I don't think I'm reading too much into this. Give her some dap.

Pretty sure Erik is with stealth r us and not the bros at this point...

Maybe she just got lucky. Like Sandra.

This. Wouldn't be surprised at all next week if Malcolm doesn't win immunity . He will play his idol and as long it isn't Andrea a stealth R Us member will leave the game.

I'm not an Andrea fan and I think her line was basically mandatory.

Sandra would never be in a spot like this; her ass would be planted on the beach next to Erik waiting for SRU to come tell her who to vote for.

Thank you. Can I route my pro-Andrea posts through you so people don't think I'm booty-blinded? She can be paranoid and still be correct; paranoid doesn't always mean bad. Was Yau-Man paranoid when he played his idol? Damn right.

Do we think the boys planned to play an idol before FTC happened? If so, do we think they planned to play it on Malcolm? That's all I'm saying. If the plan to bounce Malcolm was too risky for their alliance, it was too risky for their alliance. Whether they were planning to throw their votes on Phillip or Andrea or Cochran or Dawn or whoever was irrelevant to the riskiness for the group. I'm not sure how you come off to your alliance when you are fine with the plan right up until you find out that your name is the supposedly irrelevant name that is going to be written down by the other side. They knew that SOMEBODY was the target. They had approached Dawn and Sherri about the votes.

Then, that should have been the plan all along. Never this, 'let's blindside Malcolm', then changing her mind. Who did she think they were voting for? Phillip? What did they tell Dawn and Sherri?

Playing an idol when you don't need to = not good--unless you demand it on the spot from your bro and keep your's secret.

Not playing an idol and going home=LOL

Also Eddie is a Mook, Andrea is a playa

I think the reason Malcolm has avoided attempting to get Brenda is because he misreads her position in the favs alliance. He thought dawn and Sherri were at the bottom. Not sure about Sherri, but it doesn't seem like dawn is at the bottom at all. He probably thinks Brenda and Andrea's relationship is stronger than it really is. Not that we know what their relationship is like anyway because we don't ever get to %#*%ing hear Brenda talk or interact besides her little dances and weird noises at challenges.

Who knows if it wasn't the plan all along? What harm came out of keeping the Malcolm blindside option open? A common mistake in Survivor is restricting your options for no good reason (like Malcolm did when he told Denise he was voting for her last season).

I believe both of those questions are yes Soncy. Which makes me wonder why Malcolm voted Reynold? Are we to suppose he was attempting to pretend to be with Stealth still after that big show he put on? By him voting for Reynold,, there was only 3 secured votes at tribal going towards Andrea. So even if they split, Andrea wouldn't have went to jury.