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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
All of the HvV F3 are overrated. I think kartinken was a visionary when he said Jerri played the best game that season.
One other thing I want to find out about is why so many posters say that Parvati played the best game in HvV and thus why she is amongst the GOAT.
I find that her HvV game is extremely overrated and can be easily compared to 3 player's games that have gotten no respect amongst this thread and the survivor public:
1. Colby's Australian game
I think most agree that Tina played a better strategic and social game and deserved to win and he gets a lot of flak for taking Tina to the end. Parvati's HvV game is similar in that she was second in command in strategy to Russell and she won some individual immunities. However Colby's Aust game gets no love despite being dominant in challenges and also a better social game (developed rapport with the other tribe members after the merge. Parvati avoided the heroes)
2. Becky - Cook Islands
Her game is one of the most thrashed amongst survivor finalists and she is constantly referred to useless and riding Yul's coat tails to the final 3. However she was shown in the game to be Yul's number 2 when it came to strategy, just like Parvati was the second in command to Russell.
The main difference is Parvati won some immunities and also did the double idol play. If the main concern with Becky is that she was willing to go to the final 3 with Yul and lose, then Parvati should equally lose points for not trying harder to keep Jerri in the final 3 by forcing a tie.
Lets imagine this, if Yul was like Russell in the social game in cook islands, do you think that Becky would deserve to win and her game would receive the same accolades as Parvati's HvV game.
3. Natalie White - Samoa
Both Natalie and Parvati wanted to stick with Russell to the final 3 and have him as a finalist because of his terrible social game. They were both carried to the end by Russell's admittedly great strategic game. Apart from the double idol play, all the big moves were made by Russell:
- Giving the HII to Parvati and Tyson booting himself
- Swinging over Jerri and Coach
- Convincing JT to give him the HII
- Swinging over Candice to prevent Sandra from flipping
- Voting out Danielle
- determining who went to the final 3
These 3 games are quite disrespected to a degree amongst fans, yet Parvati's HvV game is so highly rated despite some major similarities with these 3 player's games.
Or is Parvati's HvV game so respected because of her major target pregame?
I think the emphasis that she places that only Russell and Danielle would align with her due to her supposed target is very overrated. It was identified that the majority alliance early on in the Villains was Rob, Courtney, Sandra, Parvati, Russell and Danielle with Coach, Tyson, Jerri and Randy on the outs. Eventually the majority alliance split 3-3 as Tyson smartly and sneakily pitted Rob and Russell against each other. Parvati chose to follow Russell to the outs on her own accord.
The other thing is why she thought that getting to the end as second in command to Russell would win her any jury votes. It was obvious that Russell called the shots in the alliance. Parvati is loyal to a fault and will stick to a final 3 alliance even if its not in her best interests (such as with Amanda and Cirie). Her game plan is extremely rigid and she had to know that her only shot at winning that way was sitting with Russell and Danielle (or Jerri later on) in the finals.
Parvati had the chance at Courtney's boot to call the Heroes bluff and blindside Russell and take charge and run the game as the Black Widows Brigade v2.0 and earn kudos strategically, but instead she decided to stick loyal to Russell and play the passive game and let Russell take all the credit for strategic moves. One double idol play won't convince the jury that it was in fact you that were running the show, esp when you couldn't control Russell and couldn't prevent your closest ally, Danielle from going home.
Sorry for starting a new topic in this thread, but it really tilts me when I see people say that Parvati should have won HvV or she played one of the best games. Given that she won Micronesia, her knowledge from that game should lead to knowing how to play a better game in HvV. Instead she plays a extremely rigid game requiring her in a final 3 with Russell and Danielle to win, and she makes no bonds with the heroes, when it was the bonds with Natalie and Alexis that factored in her winning in Micronesia.
Her supposed target is no excuse. If she really was a great player (like KOS, Colin and Dom like to say), she had her chances to take control of the game yet failed to do so. I doubt she really understands the intricacies of the game as well as the real GOATs.