you are literally the only person to make any deal out of such a common place avenue of discussion whatsoever

it's open discussion and hiding it only unnecessarily stifles natural discussion

point in hand, if you're going to mention your habit of blindly watching cinema, you would essentially be someone that would fly off the handle at someone naturally posting a trailer in a thread discussing the movie

i.e.

master: "how dare you post that avatar trailer in this avatar discussion thread you incosiderate pr*ck!"

i hope the irony doesn't escape you

The bolded comments and showing pictures of brandon dumping out the entire supply of rice are not the same thing DUCY, or are you too ****ing thickheaded for that?

my guess is the latter, because even though I AND MANY ****ING OTHERS have asked you not to continue doing so, you say "to hell with all you special people who want special privileges" bull**** and have no idea of what the word empathy means. You're a spoiled, self-centered ******* who doesnt understand why people would ask for something that could benefit more than just themselves cause you cant see past the nose on your own stupid ****ing face.

These are good points, though I find it hard to believe this was their reasoning behind it. If the idol is THAT scary to the fans, shouldn't they have made sure to burn it and/or Reynold before it became an issue?

Also, if they're that worried about the idol, shouldn't they have scared Reynold into playing it last time? Presumably, Reynold didn't play the idol during Hope's boot despite fully expecting to be one of the people receiving 3 votes in the tie. He was confident he would not go home on a tiebreaker, right? In other words, he was confident that if the group voted for him and Eddie, they would keep [Reynold + idol] over [Eddie]. I get that the scenario is different when there are two "minority allies" instead of three, but he seemed to be gambling that his value was significantly higher than Eddie's in terms of challenge prowess.

yeah I looked up, compiled and posted screencaps from the end of episode 4 not to encourage discussion and build excitement for next week, but specifically to upset your fragile sensibilities and tout my "selfishness"

makes a lot of sense there

keep the insults coming though

I don't understand the controversy

Also: vyk, I think you're off on this one. Although the previews are not technically a spoiler by OOTV standards, these Survivor threads are their own animal. It's common courtesy to not discuss the NTOS segment unless it's in tags. In a competition show, pretty much anything can be spoiler-y, and I know people like Soncy have even considered not listening to exit interviews for fear of them being spoiler-ish. I'd rather tag anything and everything if it means certain spoilery-fearing posters are more likely to participate in this thread.

I don't see a scenario where Reynold could hold onto the idol last episode

hindsight is always 20/20 though

what's the tangible difference from people saying "omg @ brandon dumping out the rice and having a meltdown in the preview" and etc., immediately after the conclusion of the episode and the physical screencaps of him dumping out the rice as dawn makes a hilarious face

unless you want to get into semantics, there is none. the second just enhances the first

There isn't a difference; I'm saying both are going to be negatively received by a certain portion of this thread. Neither of you are "wrong" about your stance on discussing NTOS, but I can understand the frustration on the part of someone who wants to ignore previews/podcasts/whatever yet still wants to participate in this thread.

mate, I just don't see what the issue with the pics is

you're not making yourself look any better by resorting to nastyness and personal attacks either

it seems that you should step away from your monitor and cool it for a bit

I personally don't have a problem with the preview being listed in the thread, as it's incorporated into the episode. If collectively the group does decide that it's best to include it in spoilers I will abide by these rules but I would like these rules to be established in the OP. Which will clearly outline what can and can't be done, so we can further avoid these asinine arguments in the eventual further seasons of the show.

master would be the only person I ever heard of that deliberately skips the "next time on survivor" portion of each episode and then proceeds to frequent this very thread discussing that very same NTOS segment, only to have an emotional, insult laden meltdown when discussion of something being promoted as a "historic event" has a visual element to it

and these aren't exactly CBS promos, they're absolutely common place material being seen by everyone that watches the episode and then jumps into this thread to discuss it.

master's movie/trailer superstitions shows the irony of his specially tailored viewing rituals

like most, I don't see the difference between

"omg @ brandon pouring out his tribe's rice next week, what a meltdown" (directly after the episode)

and the picture of him actually doing so

it's entirely semantics

the second element simply visually enhances the first

this thread is about discussion and that's a very noteworthy piece of it right there

I fail to see the issue nor the controversy about the pics

They should not have given that much away in the preview for next week. Usually it is just stupid stuff that is intentionally misleading but this week was terrible. I can see how others are pissed they got Brandon pouring out the rice spoiled.

Yeah I understand what you are saying,and I tend to lean personally on the side of allowing people the opportunity to do as they please but I can also see the other side and their argument. This is why I think it would be best to have a vote/poll to determine what is ok or not because if these "rules" aren't clearly defined we will just keep going in circles not really going anywhere. Such as if we aren't allowed to discuss something that is at the end of the episode without using spoilers, does this mean secret scenes go in spoilers as well?

Yeah but they left out the part where the entire tribe jumps on Brandon and beats the piss out of him!

I've heard master specifically voice his displeasure about seeing the CBS promos for future episodes which they air throughout the week during sporting events and other shows. I've since put any such promos in spoiler tags specifically to accommodate his request. Now since we are discussing a huge piece of controversial material directly provided by this week's episode, he sees it fit to immediately act like a child and throw a fit consisting of nothing but personal insults IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, simply b/c he believes it infringes on his niche TV viewing experience

it's simply childish

I'm leary of the former players who have inside information spoiling the results...who won/didn't win--I like to try to speculate on that stuff myself and don't want their insider information soiling my thoughts. I'm not leary of CBS content which is made available to enhance or promote the show, such as secret scenes and the previews for the upcoming episodes. Often the previews are misleading anyway. Though naturally the rice dumping is hard to be misleading, but I don't feel like it's ruined anything for me. If anything, I'm stoked to see how everyone reacts to this development. In secret scenes, Malcolm said tension was high around camp, but just under the surface. Brandon has been threatening to sabotage the rice for a couple of episodes.

PS
I vote discussion of CBS previews not require tags, but will try to remember to oblige using tags if the thread decides it's necessary. I will also oblige tagging the secret scene recaps if necessary, but it's usually such a huge wall of text that it's surely easily avoidable if one so desires.

Brandon has been threatening to sabotage the camp for a few episodes. Now that it's coming to a head, CBS is promoting it as such. Anticipating the meltdown and discussing the potential fallout is part of the TV viewing experience, especially when it's touted and promoted by CBS itself as a "historic event" at the end of the actual episode we just watched

I was under the impression that the men in One World were only physically able to forfeit immunity b/c of the proximity of the other tribe on the same beach.

Dangit, I think I just outed myself as a lazy, inconsiderate, @$$HOLE!

how dare you divulge the tribe morale/weather patterns/and/or the deliciousness of the chicken/rice/beans/coconuts after the reward challenge

have some respect

In general I think it's fine for people to talk openly about previews in this set, not least because they rarely show anything that actually happens. This one is different, as it's basically impossible that something big doesn't go down given what they showed. It takes a lot less effort to just put that talk in spoiler tags (or ignore the naysayers and talk about it anyway) than to AIDS up the thread with these arguments.