Idk I liked the coach cast. On the twitter raid I think it's pretty lol given they aren't even playing the game.

I don't particularly fault Andrea for what she's done. It's her game, and she should play it how she thinks is best. If she wants to align with the annoying guy who wants to be in charge, that's on her--though it should probably be noted that she did it in a way that got herself targeted on week one. (I don't think it particularly helps her argument that her move looks very questionable for her game on the surface.)

Just saying I can understand if others who are closer to the situation are upset, I can see some merit in being upset from their perspective. I could tell Stephen and Francesca were annoyed on RHAP, but they stayed pretty adult about it, and that's the sentiment that I can understand. Whatever Eliza and Russell are spraying out in the world is probably some over the top bull$#!% that I would not understand.

Also, I totally agree with those who point out that Dawn and Cochran were just as responsible for Fran's demise. Of course, Dawn and Cochran probably benefit the most from a fractured tribe who is fighting amongst themselves. Particularly Cochran. He doesn't need a tribe that is just looking to make sure it's as strong as it needs to be for challenges. Voting off the other male who is probably the second least worthwhile to have in challenges probably not the best thing for Cochran. Again, I really think Fran hurt her cause when she threw Corrine's name out as an alternative to Phillip.

Ethan and Jenna breaking up??

http://www.people.com/people/article...675065,00.html

Fran dug her own grave. She keeps her mouth shut and she is still around next tribal. The w(h)ine and cheese are just mad their plan to brainwash Andrea didn't work.

Just finished the D&C podcast. Great stuff as usual!

yeah D&C podcast is great and spoiler-free

Dom and Colin mentioned Fran's plan to split votes...it wasn't Andrea she mentioned. The person she thought Phillip was aligned with was Corrine. She mentioned Corrine to Cochran. She mentioned Corrine to Brandon. She mentioned Corrine in a scene discussing vote splitting. Brandon and Erik came to Francesca with Andrea's name. Not the other way around.

My opinion on why Brenda ended up on the wrong side of the numbers: Partly the reason many people thought she might be an early target; that she was a very aggressive and visible player on her first go. Sherri going on about how dangerous she is as she walks off the helicopter...it's common knowledge. Also, there was a small clip of Brenda trying to joke with Phillip that he didn't need to position the shelter the way he wanted to position the shelter. I think she was joking, but not really joking, and I don't think Phillip was impressed. Nobody jumping out there to associate themselves with Brenda leaves Brenda on the outs.

Andrea, Corrine, and Malcolm all capable of humoring Phillip and there was actually evidence shown of this during the episode. The group NOT capable of tolerating Phillip very well included Fran, Erik, Brandon...and Brenda, I suspect. Then, there was Cochran and Dawn in the middle and they apparently chose Phillip. Probably not a bad choice for them. Cochran and Dawn are very "anyone but me" type of players. People firing shots back and forth at each other usually aren't targeting the Cochran/Dawn types. Sit back and let the people who want to be in control and the people who don't want to be told what to do take each other out. (Also a good result for Corrine, I believe. Particularly this Corrine that's laying low.)

Here's the thing about aligning with Phillip though. Those favorites are not Boston Rob. None of them. And there was a reason why he didn't always tell Phillip what was going on. And that reason was related to how Phillip handled wooing Erik and how Phillip handled Francesca attempting to extend an olive branch--he thinks he's slick and charismatic, but he's not. They've let Phillip think he's in charge. It's difficult to keep him in the dark if his alliance is playing it as if he's the boss. And if you don't keep him in the dark, he's probably going to muck up your plans in some fashion.

I doubt that. I'm with Rob Cesternino when he says that especially on day 1 people are looking for ANY reason to vote someone out - it doesn't matter how small.

Everyone was talking pre-season that it would suck for Fran to be voted out first twice .. I bet that the survivors on the favorites tribe talked about the same thing. BOOM there is your reason to vote someone out before the game even started.

If you play this season out 10 times, Fran probably goes home first from her tribe in 8 of them. It's way too hard to get an alliance going if people know that you are in the hot seat and they might be too after the first tribal council (see Eric, Brenda and Brandon).

Also, according to Andrea in a secret scene, Phillip had trouble letting go of his hate for Fran last time they played. How do all these people maintain the facade that they are going along with Phillip if they vote out anyone but his nemesis?

I think she made a mistake bringing up Corrine's name. She needed to play it more, 'who do we get rid of?'. But it may not have mattered.

I also felt like a lot of her seeming scrambling was a result of people playing it coy with her because she was their alternative to Phillip--they weren't about to tell her that, but you could still sense it. She'd try to talk about who to vote, and sometimes they just sat there and offered nothing.

As Whitney and Keith get engaged!

http://www.realitynation.com/tv-show...engaged/28264/

Yeah, I heard about that.

Jenna's post on FB:

"Thank you everyone for your kind words & support. And thank you to my loved ones for NOT commenting on all the articles & stuff going around. This is a day I NEVER thought would come. To say I am heartbroken would be the understatement of the year. Your support & love is lifting me up."

Now we just need them on an all winners season.

So you're saying this is all part of a brilliant long con strategy to ensure that they are both on a winners season AND they get to keep their alliance with each other UTR?

cancer survivors are known for their long con capabilities

Nice!

great podcast with Probst talking strategy, behind the scenes, history.

Brandon targeted Andrea and we all know how he feels about good looking women. Lascivious strumpets!

Wow great interview. Wish it went on for another 2 hours.

I am struggling to finish this episode. The great Survivor podcast hosts (and guests) provide insight into human psychology. On Survivor Know-It-Alls, Ian spent most of his time praising either Mike Skupin's game play or RC's physical attributes. Good job reading too much into Skupin's twitter interpretation of the show instead of the actual show.

However, this episode is a must-listen if you want to find out which S26 female contestants Ian thinks are hot!

Just a reminder that there are lots of picks I don't have for Survivor Survivor yet, so if you havent made your pick yet, be sure to submit it in that thread before 8PM EST tomorrow in order to avoid elimination!

So many things to talk about from that podcast, but my #1 is who were the 2 low IQ peeps from last season? Abi is the easy guess. Zane? Struggling with #2

Abi for sure. I couldn't think of the other one.

Did he say specifically last season, I thought he said last seasons, which made me think Naonka and Kelly. No way Probst regrets having Abi on the show.

For those who might be worried, this is spoiler free other than Probst saying there are a lot of surprises this season.