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02-07-2013 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JB91
Going by previous seasons I think a favorite will win and the strong males will be early merge boots.
strong males are never early merge boots unless dominant women alliances form. strong males usually go 1-2-3 post merge

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Originally Posted by JB91
We playing Survivor-Survivor again?
I'm absolutely adamant against Survivor Survivor b/c of the multiple people that play who obviously read the spoilers, ruining it for the rest of us. There's at least 1 person in the thread each year with magical psychic powers

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Originally Posted by JackTrumper
Consensus on Survivor-Survivor being in a separate thread?
If you must have it, do it in another thread
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02-07-2013 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
I'm absolutely adamant against Survivor Survivor b/c of the multiple people that play who obviously read the spoilers, ruining it for the rest of us. There's at least 1 person in the thread each year with magical psychic powers
Well it's not like we put money on it last season. If someone wants to be a dick to have extra internet street cred, good for them.
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02-07-2013 , 03:41 PM
I would prefer it be in another thread as it seemed often to limit the discussions of the previous episode.
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02-07-2013 , 04:05 PM
If it's causing that much clutter just put it on a Google Doc and have the organizer post an update itt every week?
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02-07-2013 , 05:24 PM
I'd rather it stays out of this thread entirely

It stifles discussion, clutters the thread and is a breeding ground for spoilers
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02-07-2013 , 05:26 PM
Anyone hear that CBS changed the premiere to 90 minutes instead of 2 hours?
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02-07-2013 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDjib
I think Andrea gets far to much credit as a survivor player. When I think back to Redemption Island, I don't remember Andrea doing much at all that showed she had a grasp of the game. She seemed to get painted as some sort of savvy player due to being slightly less enamored with Boston Rob then the other girls on her tribe(which wouldn't be difficult), she ultimately was booted from the game rather feebly.

None of the interviews I've seen from her since then have changed my opinion of her. I accept that she has a number of friends in the game already, which certainly helps, but the same can be said for Dawn and Cochran.

My winner pick for the season is Malcolm for the simple reason that he is far and away the best player out their of the ones we know. Unfortunately, I fear the second best player out their, Brenda is going to have a tragically short stay.
I think Andrea is a decent player, not great but certainly not bad (and the fact that she's a beast in challenges even among strong men only enhances her street cred). Parvati 1.0 wasn't that exceptional as a player either, but we all know how that turned out.
I have no clue though how you get from Andrea is nothing special to Brenda is the second best player out there. I could see Brenda finishing 15th just as easily as I could see her in the top 5.

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Originally Posted by peterpjames
be careful betting on this show...final 3 are very well known on the major survivor spoiler sites and they seem to have an idea of who favorite is to win. I'm not going to spoil anything or post anymore, but be careful you know who you're betting with is all I'm saying.
The offer was mostly in jest due to the poster who picked Andrea to win and his extensive track record of being wrong. I'd never actually bet on a prerecorded show (prop or money) unless I was reasonably inclined to believe the other person wouldn't care enough to spoil themselves for the purposes of winning a bet. I'm obviously very much into the show, and being a degenerate gambler I simply want action on anything and everything to enhance the experience.

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Originally Posted by Gary Wise
S'pose I could be off-base, but there didn't seem to be a lot of subtlety there.
For once I don't think you're off-base. Brenda is nowhere near as good as she thinks she is, and she's definitely not subtle. The Ponderosa video with her and Marty's nonstop bitching after being voted off was a perfect indication of that. Her tribal performances on the first vote when she was on the block and the night she was voted off were both abysmal (lucky for her Shannon was just nuclear bad). She needs to tone down her ego when around others (lol swag_check). Brenda has potential for sure but comparing her to the current incarnations of Boston Rob and Parvati is just criminal.

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Originally Posted by JB91
I think all of them have winner potential but I'm going to take the dark horse and back Francesca for the win.
I could never back Francesca for a win. In previous seasons of Survivor, we've had all the following types of people who have been able to survive a vote: handicap people, injured people, people with absolutely zero athletic ability, crazy people, annoying people, people who asked to be voted off, etc.
Unless you're incredibly old or you get badly injured in the first challenge (but not medevaced), I have absolutely no faith in someone who was first out being able to navigate their way through 39 days and 19 other people. Even if you get the nut worst tribe draw, if you're any sort of halfway decent player you should be able to figure out a way to last beyond 3 days and not have the majority of the tribe gunning for you right away.

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Originally Posted by Soncy
Chase held a lot of power, and I feel like that power should have been more up for grabs for Brenda because he was very malleable in general and he liked Brenda. Fabio also a stick to be picked up and used. Yet, with those two in the game, and Sash, her former closest ally, she got bounced. I feel like surely there was a misplay in there somewhere.

I liked her mind for the game and I always give points for trying, but her execution seemed poor.
Completely agree, esp. with the bolded.

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Originally Posted by vyk07
strong males are never early merge boots unless dominant women alliances form. strong males usually go 1-2-3 post merge
Sense...this post makes none.

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Originally Posted by vyk07
I'm absolutely adamant against Survivor Survivor b/c of the multiple people that play who obviously read the spoilers, ruining it for the rest of us. There's at least 1 person in the thread each year with magical psychic powers
oh, you mean the person who ends up winning/being right? there have definitely been those in the past who came through to outright post spoilers or make sporadic 1 line "predictions"...but it seems like the general trend around here (for some) is if there is a regular, consistent poster who is more perceptive and has a better understanding of the game than them, or is more adept at reading edits (plus the variance of running good), then that person must have been spoiled.
pretty ironic when you juxtapose that with just how hard ~90% of this thread bought in to one of the most lol-tastic trolling jobs to ever grace 2p2 and how vehemently they supported him (shout out to BG wherever you are).

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Originally Posted by vyk07
If you must have it, do it in another thread
oh, didn't realize you'd been appointed thread moderator to arbitrarily rule on such matters...
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02-07-2013 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VTChess
Anyone hear that CBS changed the premiere to 90 minutes instead of 2 hours?
yea I wonder why?
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02-07-2013 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDjib
My winner pick for the season is Malcolm for the simple reason that he is far and away the best player out their of the ones we know. Unfortunately, I fear the second best player out their, Brenda is going to have a tragically short stay.
Malcolm is the best all-around player on this season no doubt, and of the 20 contestants would have the most win equity if placed on a random season with 19 other random people. However, because of the format of this season (he's the new kid among 9 other returnees, many of whom are friends), he wouldn't be my favorite to win. Malcolm doesn't have the same gap in skill and abilities between him and the others that a top 5 all-time player has that would lead me to label them both the best player and the favorite to win even in an all-star season.
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02-07-2013 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by swag_check
Sense...this post makes none.
your reputation as a clown precedes you
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02-07-2013 , 08:10 PM
lol, I was simply trying to wrap my simple mind around how strong males are "never early merge boots unless dominant women alliances form"...yet at the same time "usually go 1-2-3 post merge"


maybe just stick to gifs, videos, and images where you don't have to think too much before posting.
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02-07-2013 , 08:16 PM
strong males usually survive pre merge since they're useful in challenges

they are then typically the first ones targeted post-merge

so you should probably check your logic, before you make a further idiot out of yourself
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02-07-2013 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Webb18
yea I wonder why?
When is the last time they actually did a 2 hour premiere, heroes vs villains?
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02-07-2013 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Soncy
I think one of the reasons Brenda got booted was because she tried to target Sash who was one of her closest allies [and a good ally for her to go to end with given the perception of him (which, perhaps she wasn't aware of? maybe Sash's rep only went bad after Jane trashed him?).] Also, after things were going badly for Brenda, it seemed like she refused to scramble to try to save herself.
I have no clue where Brenda's blindside came from in Nicaragua

She kind of distanced herself from Sash and got on the wrong side of Jane and Holly

I'm looking forward to seeing her play again the most
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02-07-2013 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
strong males usually survive pre merge since they're useful in challenges

they are then typically the first ones targeted post-merge

so you should probably check your logic, before you make a further idiot out of yourself
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Originally Posted by JB91
Going by previous seasons I think a favorite will win and the strong males will be early merge boots.
Early merge boots = soon after the tribes have merged i.e. post merge. Which seems to be the source of the confusion.
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02-07-2013 , 08:36 PM
lol vyk, there is no need to be upset. how am i supposed to know that you omitted a fairly crucial word from your post and chose to call me a clown rather than amend your own mistake? i just figured you didn't know what the word "merge" means and was trying to help you out there buddy. can we hug it out?
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02-07-2013 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JB91
Early merge boots = soon after the tribes have merged i.e. post merge. Which seems to be the source of the confusion.
Yeah I seemed to have misread your statement. I agree completely
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02-07-2013 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by swag_check
I could never back Francesca for a win. In previous seasons of Survivor, we've had all the following types of people who have been able to survive a vote: handicap people, injured people, people with absolutely zero athletic ability, crazy people, annoying people, people who asked to be voted off, etc.
Unless you're incredibly old or you get badly injured in the first challenge (but not medevaced), I have absolutely no faith in someone who was first out being able to navigate their way through 39 days and 19 other people. Even if you get the nut worst tribe draw, if you're any sort of halfway decent player you should be able to figure out a way to last beyond 3 days and not have the majority of the tribe gunning for you right away.
I don't actually think she'll win, I just wanted to be different and back someone that isn't Andrea, Brenda or Cochran. However I think her boot was very different to a normal first boot. The circumstances of Kristina getting the idol, Phillip being crazy and Boston Rob being Boston Rob meant she didn't get much of a chance. Which is why she is coming back. I think she has enough friends on the Favorites and also has more in common with the Fans which could help her have a decent run.
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02-07-2013 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by swag_check
lol vyk, there is no need to be upset. how am i supposed to know that you omitted a fairly crucial word from your post and chose to call me a clown rather than amend your own mistake? i just figured you didn't know what the word "merge" means and was trying to help you out there buddy. can we hug it out?
I was power skimming and kind of saw it as early boots for some reason

I don't see where the need was for you to insult my intelligence
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02-08-2013 , 12:53 AM
The need to insult is pathological. I know you aren't new here, vyk. In any case, meet swag_check.
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02-08-2013 , 08:38 AM
I'm in for Survivor-Survivor as long as Swag Check is out
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02-08-2013 , 09:01 AM
Oh - and I'm gonna go all in on the Coch-Train as my pre-season winner pick, although I could easily see him getting to the end and losing the vote to some floater who was slightly better at challenges and didn't make any moves that pissed off some butt-hurt jury member.
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02-08-2013 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
If it's causing that much clutter just put it on a Google Doc and have the organizer post an update itt every week?
I don't think the google doc is needed and last year everyone just stopped using it after a week in SS2 anyway.
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02-08-2013 , 01:08 PM
There should be 11 Favorites, with Malcolm placed on the fans tribe as a mole.
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