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03-24-2014 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by K.O.S.
You can immediately remove Boston Rob, Amber, Heidik, Danni, Aras, Yul, and Cochran, so we're already at 19. Are Ethan and Todd able to play? Tyson, Parvati, and Tina all for a 4th time? You absolutely can't have this season without Hatch and Sandra, so are they in? Even if that all works out, you're still left with several really awful returnees CBS is forced to play due to the small pool.
I don't think you give enough credit to the TV attentionwhoredom of people who have played Survivor.
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03-24-2014 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
She's won twice.
That's why she would get one. Why would she need it?

Last edited by Didace; 03-24-2014 at 10:06 AM. Reason: Just trying to stir the pot. :-)
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03-24-2014 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardfish1
I don't think you give enough credit to the TV attentionwhoredom of people who have played Survivor.
The people I removed from the list aren't attention whores, are they? Your comment might apply to Tyson/Parv/Tina, but I was asking more from the angle of "Would CBS want them back yet again?" (Always yes on Parv, maybe on Tyson, no on Tina.)
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03-24-2014 , 02:17 PM
I would have said the same about Tina before BvW, though. In some ways she's actually an ideal returnee, since she leaves little enough of an impression that it's hard for people to get sick of her.

I don't think Yul, Danni, or Aras are automatic nos.
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03-24-2014 , 02:30 PM
Yul and Danni are definitely yes according to what they have stated in interviews.
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03-24-2014 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by K.O.S.
The people I removed from the list aren't attention whores, are they?
I'd say all of them are. That's a big part of them going on Survivor.



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Your comment might apply to Tyson/Parv/Tina, but I was asking more from the angle of "Would CBS want them back yet again?" (Always yes on Parv, maybe on Tyson, no on Tina.)
For an all winners season, yes, CBS would want them back.
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03-24-2014 , 03:32 PM
Pretty sure if the superstars (Rob, Parv, Yul) aren't playing, then CBS won't run an all winners season in the forseeable future.

They're more likely to do Heroes vs Villains 2 so they can get people like Malcolm, Abi, Jeff Kent, Pete, Brad, Hayden or Vytas back along with the recent winners like Kim, Denise, Sophie and whatever old school stars still want to play

Last edited by 425kid; 03-24-2014 at 03:37 PM.
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03-24-2014 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by K.O.S.
I mean, isn't Malcolm the single biggest lock to play in/before S30?
Toss up between him and Hayden? I would probably bet Hayden is on one of the two seasons filming this spring/summer.
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03-24-2014 , 05:02 PM
Hayden really doesn't have the same fanbase though, even when you consider the Big Brother crowd. Malcolm is the golden boy of the franchise.
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03-24-2014 , 05:30 PM
Are you all hankering for another returnees season? I would prefer more brand new player seasons. The outside-the-game alliances and relationships taint the game more than having better players improves it.
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03-24-2014 , 05:35 PM
I would be perfectly fine with never seeing another returnee season.
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03-24-2014 , 06:23 PM
we all know they are gonna do H v V #2 for S30 . . .
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03-24-2014 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
I would have said the same about Tina before BvW, though. In some ways she's actually an ideal returnee, since she leaves little enough of an impression that it's hard for people to get sick of her.

I don't think Yul, Danni, or Aras are automatic nos.
Tina leaving little enough of an impression is a negative, though. I think Tina returned in part because she was a female/female pair, and those were hard to find.

From a TV POV, CBS obviously wants an all-winners season to happen, but they're more concerned with actually having good characters than they are about maintaining the "purity of the theme" or whatever. If they tried to do an all-winners season for S29 but only came up with 10-12 good names, do you really think they would do it anyway vs. doing a "Winners vs. _____" theme they felt gave them a stronger overall cast? It's not like it would keep them from doing an all-winners season in a few years anyway.

With Danni and Yul, an all-winners season is probably the only way they're getting invited back anyway. Aras told us he was totally done, though I guess I could see him coming back in this (and only this) format. Still, I don't get why CBS wouldn't just wait another 5-6 seasons, particularly with the ratings being good now. They can play the all-winners card when Survivor starts taking a pre-HvV-esque nosedive again.

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Originally Posted by TheGreenMile
Yul and Danni are definitely yes according to what they have stated in interviews.
Link to Danni's interview? I'd be interested to read anything from her, as I assumed the opposite. Yul strikes me as the type who says he would play again but wouldn't be able to actually find the time to do it. Isn't he doing political work now? Some jobs might make it tough to leave for 6 weeks (a la Corinne passing on HvV).

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Originally Posted by Cardfish1
I'd say all of them are. That's a big part of them going on Survivor.
I completely disagree with this. It's more true for recruits, but I would say that most applicants are more interested in playing (and having a million-dollar freeroll) than actually being on TV. I certainly don't think people like Michael Snow or Spencer Duhm gave two ****s about being on TV; they just wanted to play.

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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I would be perfectly fine with never seeing another returnee season.
I don't understand this line of thinking. I get not wanting every season to have returnees, and I agree with that, but it's also no coincidence that arguably the two most popular seasons ever (16 and 20) were packed with and run by returnees.
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03-24-2014 , 11:52 PM
I said perfectly fine, not that I would prefer it.
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03-25-2014 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by K.O.S.
Link to Danni's interview? I'd be interested to read anything from her, as I assumed the opposite. Yul strikes me as the type who says he would play again but wouldn't be able to actually find the time to do it. Isn't he doing political work now? Some jobs might make it tough to leave for 6 weeks (a la Corinne passing on HvV).
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She was on Survivor Oz a couple years back. I'm not a fan of his interviews in general, but this one is maybe worth the listen.. https://survivoroz.wordpress.com/201...ght-interview/

may be true about Yul but he managed to find time to host a show for PBS or something IIRC, i'm sure he could make it work.
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03-25-2014 , 06:46 AM
I thought it was previous obvious that Yul wants to come back, is waiting to come back, and is disappointed that he hasnt been asked back since maybe S16.

You could tell that he was still sorta playing the game in his 2 appearances on RHAP.

Also, in most recent Penner interviews, Penner pretty much flat out says that Yul wants to come back.

Then, every once in a while, you hear about Yul, of all people, reaching out to some former Survivor out of the blue when casting for all-star seasons come up. When he next appears on S, I expect Yul to pull an Aras 2.0 and have some pre-set relationships in place before the game begins.
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03-25-2014 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by seton
ok, here is the deal:

Brawn Aparri remained at the old location, which was the former Galang location in S27.

Beauty Solana was moved to the old Brain Luzon location, which is the best location. It's the old Tadhana location and where the merged S27 tribe stayed. Obviously all the communal Beauty stuff was moved there.

So yes, Brains had the best location of the original 3 tribes and Garret still complained.
What makes the best location?

Kass (brain) in a secret scene said "we arrived at brawn." and how good the camp was. Only Sarah (brawn) remained on the orange mat, joined by brains and three beauties.

The rest of brawn moved to purple (beauty) with two remaining beauties.

It seems logical if the kept the actual brain camp they would have kept the color.
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03-25-2014 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hikertrash
What makes the best location?

Kass (brain) in a secret scene said "we arrived at brawn." and how good the camp was. Only Sarah (brawn) remained on the orange mat, joined by brains and three beauties.

The rest of brawn moved to purple (beauty) with two remaining beauties.

It seems logical if the kept the actual brain camp they would have kept the color.
best location general criteria is usually avail vegetation to eat and how nice the beach is.

Solana = purple, Aparri = orange. In case u havent noticed, it's pretty much the default color tribes for the past 6 seasons or so.
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03-25-2014 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by seton
best location general criteria is usually avail vegetation to eat and how nice the beach is.
Yup, that what's Kass said, and it was certain she switched camps.
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03-25-2014 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hikertrash
Yup, that what's Kass said, and it was certain she switched camps.
and there is Cliff's SS where he said that he preferred his old beach.
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03-26-2014 , 08:11 AM
How do you guys feel about Spencer being prominently featured in the opening credits? When the camera cuts to the helicopter, he's the only face you see. For the beauties on the boat, Morgan is most prominent, and for the shot of the brawns, Cliff is most prominent. But Spencer's prominence seems greater than Morgan and Cliff.

Very likely I'm splitting hairs here, but I hope this doesn't amount to last season's overhead shot of Vytas.
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03-26-2014 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
That's why she would get one. Why would she need it?
because she got lucky twice
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03-26-2014 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
How do you guys feel about Spencer being prominently featured in the opening credits? When the camera cuts to the helicopter, he's the only face you see. For the beauties on the boat, Morgan is most prominent, and for the shot of the brawns, Cliff is most prominent. But Spencer's prominence seems greater than Morgan and Cliff.

Very likely I'm splitting hairs here, but I hope this doesn't amount to last season's overhead shot of Vytas.

Spencer doesnt have near the likability of Vytas. I think you are reading too much into it imo. I would have to see the shot but I assume it fulfills something that producers were looking for, and Spencer being the focus was just coincidence.

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03-26-2014 , 04:28 PM
Wow. I prefer Vytas over Spencer personally but I would say that Spencer has been portrayed as more likable. Mostly bc he has been an underdog most of the season so far and USA loves an underdog. Also, Vytas gave off a huge Iago vibe.
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03-26-2014 , 04:49 PM
Vytas was a tool bag. I didn't think I would like Spencer, but that has changed.
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