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05-20-2020 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
That just adds on to the point that there are many possible ways how Tony will eventually go down, neither we nor Tony know when or how it will happen.
I didn't realize that was a Brutas quote(interesting) but that's just Paulie's humor and maybe he knew Tony heard it before. Like it's just shwoing him having fun serving him not so much he plans on killing him. If he planned on kiling him the last thing he would do is hint at it to Tony in case Tony knew it was Brutas that said it.

Also it's not Paulie's character to kill Tony and take over. Paulie doesn't want the pressure and responsibility of being the leader. Didn't Tony even offer him either what he did or even a higher position and Paulie declined saying he likes his life as it is?

But i'm sure was chase's plan to put one more way it could happen for a little fun and thinking as you say. And maybe "any way you want it" is i hint at for us to choose who kills him and the motive.

I think saying Tony was killed though is the most likely thing that happened since Chase said he visioned that "death scene" years before.
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05-20-2020 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkCheck
I didn't realize that was a Brutas quote(interesting) but that's just Paulie's humor and maybe he knew Tony heard it before. Like it's just shwoing him having fun serving him not so much he plans on killing him. If he planned on kiling him the last thing he would do is hint at it to Tony in case Tony knew it was Brutas that said it.

Also it's not Paulie's character to kill Tony and take over. Paulie doesn't want the pressure and responsibility of being the leader. Didn't Tony even offer him either what he did or even a higher position and Paulie declined saying he likes his life as it is?

But i'm sure was chase's plan to put one more way it could happen for a little fun and thinking as you say. And maybe "any way you want it" is i hint at for us to choose who kills him and the motive.

I think saying Tony was killed though is the most likely thing that happened since Chase said he visioned that "death scene" years before.
Probably fits in with that whole wanting that portrait of Pie-O-My to be altered so that Tony is seen to be a general that Paulie appreciates history.
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05-20-2020 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
That just adds on to the point that there are many possible ways how Tony will eventually go down, neither we nor Tony know when or how it will happen.
Yeah I think I'm on this team forever. Anything that gets pointed out as a harbinger of Tony dying can also be considered a harbinger of Tony MAYBE dying.

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05-21-2020 , 01:05 AM
yes

we know this bc the television show ends while tony is alive, looking at the camera

the cut to black is from OUR perspective


does he get shot 1 second afterwards?




the fact that ppl still feel the need to discuss the ending of this show blows my mind a little = goat oat
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05-21-2020 , 01:42 AM
The OP had only one rule for this thread. smh

side note on that subject:
RIP YTF. Can't believe it's been almost a year already. I finally started Deadwood and have three eps+movie to go (you were right, it's amazing). I miss your posts and stories dearly but I'm glad you got to take that road trip and see the movie before you died. I can't wait to reread your TR after I finish the series.
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05-21-2020 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by konbanwa
The OP had only one rule for this thread. smh
lol

totally forgot about that ... prolly bc like the last ~1400 posts have been about the ending
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05-24-2020 , 08:41 AM
Here is good one I just noticed from a youtubes recco
tony B talks about guy making grilled cheese on the radiator
,,,just what Philly had to settle for.




Just now and never before I also think it is stupid that TonyB talks about getting jumped by some black guys. I know that is standard funny thing for Sopranos but its kinda stupid here.

If he REALLY did get jumped by random soulmen then revenge and being more pissed off would be in order. Otherwise there are tons of better excuses for why you are limping.
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05-26-2020 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by magking1
Here is good one I just noticed from a youtubes recco
tony B talks about guy making grilled cheese on the radiator
,,,just what Philly had to settle for.




Just now and never before I also think it is stupid that TonyB talks about getting jumped by some black guys. I know that is standard funny thing for Sopranos but its kinda stupid here.

If he REALLY did get jumped by random soulmen then revenge and being more pissed off would be in order. Otherwise there are tons of better excuses for why you are limping.
Any idea whether Phil and Tony B were in the same prison before they got released at the start of season 5?

Because if they were that comment makes more sense about grilled cheese but it also makes it odd given what Tony B ends up doing to Phil later on in that season by killing his brother.
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05-26-2020 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Any idea whether Phil and Tony B were in the same prison before they got released at the start of season 5?

Because if they were that comment makes more sense about grilled cheese but it also makes it odd given what Tony B ends up doing to Phil later on in that season by killing his brother.
My guess is no, since I think Phil was doing time for murder and that's almost always a state crime rather than federal. And in Phil's case the state in question would likely be NY rather than NJ. I'm not a lawyer though, any around to correct me?
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06-19-2020 , 01:41 PM
catching up on that christopher/bacala pod and on the ep with the casting ladies they gave up a brand-new nugget that jerry stiller (aka frank costanza) was supposed to play hesh

he dropped out of the pilot at the last minute to do some commercial instead, and they had to scramble around over a weekend to sign someone else, which turned out to be jerry adler, an improvement imo


re: the pod
i think it's improving, bacala finding his stride more
plus they've been having more guests on, just had aj & meadow on, and supposedly chase will be on at some point
i imagine paulie & sil will too, seems like they're friends with those guys
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09-16-2020 , 05:56 PM
interesting theory imperioli brought up on the last pod, that dr. russ fegoli is paulie's father

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZp7rbW7cBM

you'll remember that on her deathbed paulie's real mother tells him that she was knocked up by some g.i. named russ


the fact that imperioli mentioned it for no real reason makes me think that they put it in there intentionally, if only as some kind of easter egg joke, but who knows, maybe it's supposed to be true
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09-18-2020 , 10:55 PM
Dunno if thats the latest ep, but having David Proval in there was great! Richie had some of the best lines in that series imo.

Tony: I told you to back off Beansie!

Richie: I did. Then I put it in drive.

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Paulie and Sil insisting Richie to build Beansie a ramp...

Richie: Maybe when I'm there i could *** his wife too.
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09-19-2020 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by oldschooled
Dunno if thats the latest ep, but having David Proval in there was great! Richie had some of the best lines in that series imo.



Tony: I told you to back off Beansie!



Richie: I did. Then I put it in drive.



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Paulie and Sil insisting Richie to build Beansie a ramp...



Richie: Maybe when I'm there i could *** his wife too.
David Proval looked a lot more on the ball than the last podcast I saw him in a couple of months ago. He has still got it at even 76 or 78 or whatever age he is. That line to Tony he could still deliver about what is mine is not yours to give me. He also displays that same self-entitled attitude he had on the show in real life which is great to see.
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09-19-2020 , 05:32 PM
ya proval was incredible as richie, took full advantage of every second they gave him on screen

tremendous moxie for his size, with those manson lamps

a great scene:




they also should have used the bareses more throughout the series, not quite sure why they didn't
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09-20-2020 , 09:20 PM
Wanna check whether I missed a subtle (or not subtle) moment at some point.

My favorite moment in the finale is when Meadow tells Tony she's becoming a lawyer to fight against the type of anti-Italian discrimination Tony's faced. I'm sure you all have discussed it ad nauseum, but of course, it's awesome because it's when Tony realizes for sure his daughter has no idea what kind of life he leads and there's a big shoe to drop at some point in the future.

My question is: is this also the moment where we as the audience realize Meadow's pretty clueless? Was there something earlier that could have told me this?

There was one memorable scene in S2 or S3 where another girl tells Meadow that both of their dads are in the mafia and Meadow responds pretty indignantly, saying something like "they may associate with a few unsavory characters but overall my dad is a respectable businessman in waste management". But I didn't think it was clear whether or not Meadow was being sincere or just covering for Tony at that point.

Was there anything else I missed here?
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09-21-2020 , 10:49 AM
I feel like you are a bit off on Tony's reaction.

(1) You are right that Tony's initial reaction is of disbelief. But ultimately, his emotion in this scene is one of disappointment that she is going to be a lawyer instead of a doctor. He talks about it later with Dr. Melfi. Ultimately, Tony blames himself for her not pursuing medical school to instead help people that are similarly situated as him. In a sense, she does not break the cycle to get out of the mafia-life, as she is going to pursue a career that directly helps people like him.

(2) I feel like Meadow does know what kind of person her father is, but like Carmela, she puts the blinders on. When she is telling Carmela about Coco's "you have cream on your mouth" moment at the NY restaurant, she asks that she not tell Tony. She knows that there are going to be violent consequences.

(3) In the same scene where Tony learns of the "cream on your mouth" remark, he also learns that she is dating Patsy's son, and Tony leaves in a huff. Again, he is pissy that she is dating somebody connected to organized crime, though in an ancillary way like she is. His hope is that she is the one that gets the family out of the criminal-life, and it is clear that she is not going to be the one that does that.
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09-21-2020 , 02:11 PM
Meadow was just defending her dad who was being slandered in front of an "outsider" at Jackie's funeral, she knows who and what he is. Tony wanted his kids and Jackie to have lives outside of the mob.
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09-21-2020 , 09:17 PM
meadow's arc has always been kind of weird & (relatively) bad for me

she was super cynical about tony's whole deal in the beginning, but then went into denial mode after jackie jr got killed i guess? seemed kinda weak, or that they didn't really know what to do with her, idk


but yeah i think their conclusion is that mob lawyer and wife of a mob lawyer is better than actually being in the mob, but not as good as being a doctor, baby steps thru generations, etc

same with aj
he's ... aj, but at least he has a normal job in the entertainment industry, instead of trying (and failing) to be a mobster
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11-12-2020 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
David Proval looked a lot more on the ball than the last podcast I saw him in a couple of months ago. He has still got it at even 76 or 78 or whatever age he is. That line to Tony he could still deliver about what is mine is not yours to give me. He also displays that same self-entitled attitude he had on the show in real life which is great to see.

Weird to see them aged. Paulie Walnuts (Tony Sirico) looks older than his mom did on the show.

What a great show.
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11-12-2020 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Weird to see them aged. Paulie Walnuts (Tony Sirico) looks older than his mom did on the show.

What a great show.
Paulie is almost 80 isn't he? And was a big smoker so not surprised
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01-17-2021 , 07:29 PM
Question about a potential subtle moment: When Tony calls Adriana to say Chris tried to kill himself, did we as an audience have some way to know Tony was 100% FOS? It's Tony, so of course I thought there was a chance he was lying, but I wasn't sure -- I thought the scene of Chris seeing the poor family actually could have been a precursor to Chris becoming suicidal.

Once Adriana gets in the car with Paulie, they're supposed to be driving north to NY to see Chris in the hospital, but theres a clear shot of Paulie turning onto I-95 south toward Baltimore/DC. I knew for sure at that moment it was GG Adriana, but maybe I was supposed to know before that.
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01-17-2021 , 08:15 PM
During the phone call I think you are just meant to go by what you've learned about the people involved over the last 5 seasons.
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01-17-2021 , 10:14 PM
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Question about a potential subtle moment: When Tony calls Adriana to say Chris tried to kill himself, did we as an audience have some way to know Tony was 100% FOS? It's Tony, so of course I thought there was a chance he was lying, but I wasn't sure -- I thought the scene of Chris seeing the poor family actually could have been a precursor to Chris becoming suicidal.
Seeing the poor family was the moment Chris decided not to go on the run with Adriana. He didn't want to wind up in the life of an ordinary schmuck like that mullet guy. There are several echoes of Goodfellas in this episode and this is one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_T...ing#Production

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Once Adriana gets in the car with Paulie, they're supposed to be driving north to NY to see Chris in the hospital, but theres a clear shot of Paulie turning onto I-95 south toward Baltimore/DC. I knew for sure at that moment it was GG Adriana, but maybe I was supposed to know before that.
It's Silvio, not Paulie. And to that point in the series I don't think we've seen him act in the slightest way violent or mean (except maybe losing his temper during the poker game, but that's different). This added some shock value to way he killed her.
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01-21-2021 , 10:41 PM
he was violent to the stripper that ralphie was ****ing and got pregnant. or I guess the hoo-err that ralphie beat to death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AASrXlvQii8
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01-22-2021 , 12:27 AM
True I forgot about that one. Certainly not a side of him that Adriana sees.
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