Who were those black dudes they killed?

lolz

Like they said to the Nazi's does it matter?

Am I the only one expecting Jax to randomly get a bullet in his chest at some point during one of these many meet and greets?

I *think* earlier in the episode some black dude that works for the head black dude told Jax that the head black dude was planning on using a crew of black dudes to wipe out Jax and friends. Jax got the black dude to find out what black dudes the head black dude was planning on using so that Jax and the different black dudes could kill the black dudes.

**** this show.

Same guys that ran those other guys off the road? Maybe? I don't freaking know.

i believe the black dudes they killed were actually the ones assigned to kill jax's own personal black dudes.

the creepy smile, talk without moving your lips led black dudes were the ones that were going to be tasked with killing jax, which obviously they weren't going to do since he bought their undying loyalty with like a half-kilo of heroin or something.

just caught up with this and i think there's a chance juice dies without giving anything up, thereby ultimately proving he's not a rat/coward in a weird way and gemma ends up getting away with everything somehow.

The only thing that does anything for me now is Gemma killing herself bc she can't handle everything

Listen, i have loved this show from S1. but if Jax doesn't find out that Jemma killed Tara, i will be absolutely dumfounded and disappointed.

No way Gemma gets away with it. Even if juice doesn't tell, Unser will uncover it somehow.

What happens then though?
a) he tells jax, jax probably kills her
b) he tells the cops, jax still kills her easily on the inside or during a prison transport running one of his famous plays.

not outcomes he would want

No, I think it's more likely jax and the kids die, ideally with jax knowing about what she did. I'm trying to tie this somehow to the shield ending tbh, as there's been quite a bit of overlap between the two, imo. So i'm trying to think of what gemma wants the most, so she doesn't get that but she gets to live and be safe.

Juice tells Jax the truth, Jax realizes the cycle of violence he is now responsible for (starting a war on false pretenses, 50+ people dead for literally no good reason) and decides to get out. he doesn't kill his mother but he takes the children away from her which is a horrible fate

that's sort of what I'm hoping for.

although we are still early in the season for that sort of thing to happen. so I think Juice gives it up but not until later, which would indicate he reconciles with the club somehow and is part of the crew for the rest of the season

that sorta works i guess. jax loses the club, gem loses the kids. if juice offs himself after spilling teh beans then i'd be totally on board with this being very plausible

I'm just hoping Nero is the last man standing. Final scene of the final montage being him and Robocop having coffee together in the bakery.

Gemma is going to tell Jax that it was actually Nero that killed his wife, Jax is going to kill Nero's son.

can Jax just decide to leave the club? is that sort of thing allowed or are they all 4life?

(did Opie leave at one point?)

Jax isn't going to live imo

I believe that was his plan a few seasons ago. He, Tara, and the boys were gonna move to Oregon. I can't remember if this was a top secret Jax plan or if it was out in the open.

All of the above. Tyler (the Niner) tells Jax that August Marks plans on using Dulane and the East Dub crew (the "crew of black dudes") to take out SAMCRO. So they track down the East Dub crew and set them up. Turns out Dulane is driving a blue Impala, which is the car that drove a bunch of TO's guys (the Grim Bastards) off the road, hence the "Nice Impala" from TO. I THINK it was just a coincidence, meaning they didn't know the East Dub crew is the one with the Impala until they got to the house to kill them. Sutter just finding a convenient way to close the blue Impala thread, since it's main purpose was to mistakenly lead Jax and Grim Bastards to the pastor having sex, thus entwining them in subplot #57 of 203.

feels like they could have dropped one or two gangs from the current season and it would be a lot better. Sutter trying hard to involve everyone from past seasons. I'm just waiting for the Irish Kings to show up

Surprised they haven't sold guns to a muslim gang yet.

It's not too late for ISIS to play a role in the finale....

I'm waiting to see if they also bring Zobelle back into the mix.. or maybe Maureen Ashby.. just because hey, why not?

Opie had left the gang pre-show starting. He's brought back in during the first episode or two.

Wow, I am thoroughly impressed by your comprehension of this show. I tend to just zone out during the sub sub plots.