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04-08-2014 , 05:59 PM
really liked it.
good to see Martin Starr again.
I guess TJ Miller is one of those comedians that some love and others find annoying as hell. I think he's hilarious.
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04-08-2014 , 06:58 PM
love TJ Miller. he is definitely annoying, but i prefer him to say a Pete Holmes, who has the exact same voice as him but is approximately 100x more annoying, imo.

this show is gonna be a great one.
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04-08-2014 , 09:18 PM
I liked it but the only real laugh I had was how the premise of the show is that the Ted talk guy's assistant was able to find him by looking up his project on Github.. which is a public code repository site that anyone could access and copy his code/how he did it from.
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04-08-2014 , 10:06 PM
Wow, just read that Chris Evan Welch (Peter Gregory) died back in december. Had no idea
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04-08-2014 , 10:20 PM
I read about that. Mid-filming too. Not sure what they'll do, but it was a hell of final role.
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04-08-2014 , 10:34 PM
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I read about that. Mid-filming too. Not sure what they'll do, but it was a hell of final role.
It wasn't really a sudden thing, so i suspect they had a plan in place.
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04-09-2014 , 06:57 AM
damn, that's a shame, he was great. loved the first ep. will be interesting to see how it develops.
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04-09-2014 , 09:19 AM
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Did they mention what Aviato was?
He said Frontier Airlines bought it so probably some sort of booking website.
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04-09-2014 , 10:06 AM
Just saw it and thought it was pretty good, and will keep the season pass. I thought it was going to take place in the early 80's then after seeing Kid Rock I knew I was wrong.
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04-09-2014 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
I thought it was going to take place in the early 80's
Someone should totally do this.
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04-09-2014 , 11:07 AM
I don't know much about the real Silicon Valley although I just happened by chance to visit it a few days ago. Its a great idea for a TV show. I liked it, but it may not have enough sex jokes and not enough women to get a a broad audience. Anyway does anybody think that the TV shows characters supposed to roughly represent real life people.

hooli=google?
gabriel=gates? jobs?
gavin belsin-ellison?
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04-09-2014 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
I don't know much about the real Silicon Valley although I just happened by chance to visit it a few days ago. Its a great idea for a TV show. I liked it, but it may not have enough sex jokes and not enough women to get a a broad audience. Anyway does anybody think that the TV shows characters supposed to roughly represent real life people.

hooli=google? Yes
gabriel=gates? jobs? Peter Gregory = Peter Thiel
gavin belsin-ellison? Larry Page
Above...
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04-09-2014 , 02:52 PM
Something that was unclear to me in the pilot: Does the main character actually work for Hooli in some capacity prior to showing the programmers his Pied Piper site?
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04-09-2014 , 03:17 PM
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Something that was unclear to me in the pilot: Does the main character actually work for Hooli in some capacity prior to showing the programmers his Pied Piper site?
Yeah he's a programmer there
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04-09-2014 , 04:22 PM
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Yeah he's a programmer there
But he was referring the programmers there as though he wasn't one of them...he's sees them, and is like "oh no, here come the programmers".
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04-09-2014 , 04:29 PM
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But he was referring the programmers there as though he wasn't one of them...he's sees them, and is like "oh no, here come the programmers".
You misheard he called them brogrammers.
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04-09-2014 , 04:30 PM
I'm not at all knowledgeable of these things but I assumed his job was something similar (coder? is that a thing?), and the programmers were portrayed as 'jock' type characters in the company.
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04-09-2014 , 05:07 PM
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But he was referring the programmers there as though he wasn't one of them...he's sees them, and is like "oh no, here come the programmers".
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You misheard he called them brogrammers.
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I'm not at all knowledgeable of these things but I assumed his job was something similar (coder? is that a thing?), and the programmers were portrayed as 'jock' type characters in the company.
Yep he called them brogrammers. They're like frat boy meets programmer. So hot right now.

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04-10-2014 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dedmau5
hooli=google? Yes
gabriel=gates? jobs? Peter Gregory = Peter Thiel
gavin belsin-ellison? Larry Page

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I agree Hooli is meant to be Google and Peter Gregory is Peter Thiel, but Gavin Belsin character is not anything like how Larry Page acts. I've never seen or met Steve Jobs, but it seems like a Steve Jobs caricature to me.

Also, as somebody who has worked in startups & big tech companies and lived in SV for the entirety of the current boom, the show was a little annoying. I don't even care about the caricature of all of the tech people as awkward losers, that is standard. I am just annoyed at the opportunities for premises that were based on real life that they ****ed up.

1) "Ask me what 9 times F is! It's fleventyfive." --> "Ask me what E times F is! It's fleventy"

The second one isn't as funny, but at least it is meaningful. I'm sure they could have come up with a joke that was actually right. Futurama did it all the time. And the "fleventy" thing is actually brilliant.

2) "Nip Alert". Of all of the crappy startup ideas that people are actively doing that you can make easily fun of, they just make up an unrealistic thing that makes tech nerds seem like sexist losers. Nobody makes apps like this because it makes no sense.

3) Most people I know are completely in it for the money. So the idea of turning down 10 million dollars to "build an empire" is pretty unrealistic. 99% of people would take a buyout offer if it was going to net them that kind of money (although of course the kind of negotiation on screen never happens). Maybe there is the crazy 1% of people who wouldn't, but that would be very rare, and they would not be seemingly reasonable people like the main kid. The press loves to talk about how the founders of Snapchat turned down a 3 billion dollar offer, but what they don't mention is that the founders already took 10 million dollars off the table during the previous financing round. When you already have 10 million dollars, it isn't as risky to try building a big company. This kid has no money, so there is no way he turns down 10 million bucks.

4) The compression thing is also very unrealistic. Had it not been lossless, it is perfectly reasonable (like when MP3 was invented and made sharing music possible -- lossy but shrank .wav file sizes by like 10x). But by throwing in "lossless", which they had no reason to do, it just ruins the feasibility of it.

So basically, this just strikes me as the writers are being lazy and not actually trying to make the little things right, and in comedy the little things are everything. It was just the pilot so I'll watch the rest of the season, but I'm not optimistic.

I also agree with this slate article about how it is a wasted opportunity: http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...portunity.html

Last edited by pokergrader; 04-10-2014 at 02:15 AM.
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04-10-2014 , 07:42 AM
Seems to me Nip Alert was pretty grounded in reality

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04-10-2014 , 07:57 AM
A Silicon Valley in the style of Better off Ted would be awesome. A bit of that is because I want Better Off Ted back.
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04-10-2014 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pokergrader
I agree Hooli is meant to be Google and Peter Gregory is Peter Thiel, but Gavin Belsin character is not anything like how Larry Page acts. I've never seen or met Steve Jobs, but it seems like a Steve Jobs caricature to me.

Also, as somebody who has worked in startups & big tech companies and lived in SV for the entirety of the current boom, the show was a little annoying. I don't even care about the caricature of all of the tech people as awkward losers, that is standard. I am just annoyed at the opportunities for premises that were based on real life that they ****ed up.

1) "Ask me what 9 times F is! It's fleventyfive." --> "Ask me what E times F is! It's fleventy"

The second one isn't as funny, but at least it is meaningful. I'm sure they could have come up with a joke that was actually right. Futurama did it all the time. And the "fleventy" thing is actually brilliant.

2) "Nip Alert". Of all of the crappy startup ideas that people are actively doing that you can make easily fun of, they just make up an unrealistic thing that makes tech nerds seem like sexist losers. Nobody makes apps like this because it makes no sense.

3) Most people I know are completely in it for the money. So the idea of turning down 10 million dollars to "build an empire" is pretty unrealistic. 99% of people would take a buyout offer if it was going to net them that kind of money (although of course the kind of negotiation on screen never happens). Maybe there is the crazy 1% of people who wouldn't, but that would be very rare, and they would not be seemingly reasonable people like the main kid. The press loves to talk about how the founders of Snapchat turned down a 3 billion dollar offer, but what they don't mention is that the founders already took 10 million dollars off the table during the previous financing round. When you already have 10 million dollars, it isn't as risky to try building a big company. This kid has no money, so there is no way he turns down 10 million bucks.

4) The compression thing is also very unrealistic. Had it not been lossless, it is perfectly reasonable (like when MP3 was invented and made sharing music possible -- lossy but shrank .wav file sizes by like 10x). But by throwing in "lossless", which they had no reason to do, it just ruins the feasibility of it.

So basically, this just strikes me as the writers are being lazy and not actually trying to make the little things right, and in comedy the little things are everything. It was just the pilot so I'll watch the rest of the season, but I'm not optimistic.

I also agree with this slate article about how it is a wasted opportunity: http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...portunity.html
These are all soo nitty.

1. Who cares if it is right? Did you ever think that the guy memorized it when he was 14 and he made a mistake? Or didn't remember and was BSing?

2. It was a throwaway joke, they literally spent about 5 seconds on it. And I thought it was pretty funny. Also, see above post.

3. Probably true, but there is no show if he takes the money. You understand this right?

4. Again, there is no show if he basically comes up with a good compression algorithm. It is the fact that it is virtually lossless that makes it so valuable.
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04-10-2014 , 08:34 AM
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A Silicon Valley in the style of Better off Ted would be awesome. A bit of that is because I want Better Off Ted back.
Haha yeh just bring back Better of Ted. I laugh every time I remember the episode with the racist sensors.
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04-10-2014 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pokergrader
I agree Hooli is meant to be Google and Peter Gregory is Peter Thiel, but Gavin Belsin character is not anything like how Larry Page acts. I've never seen or met Steve Jobs, but it seems like a Steve Jobs caricature to me.

Also, as somebody who has worked in startups & big tech companies and lived in SV for the entirety of the current boom, the show was a little annoying. I don't even care about the caricature of all of the tech people as awkward losers, that is standard. I am just annoyed at the opportunities for premises that were based on real life that they ****ed up.

1) "Ask me what 9 times F is! It's fleventyfive." --> "Ask me what E times F is! It's fleventy"

The second one isn't as funny, but at least it is meaningful. I'm sure they could have come up with a joke that was actually right. Futurama did it all the time. And the "fleventy" thing is actually brilliant.

2) "Nip Alert". Of all of the crappy startup ideas that people are actively doing that you can make easily fun of, they just make up an unrealistic thing that makes tech nerds seem like sexist losers. Nobody makes apps like this because it makes no sense.

3) Most people I know are completely in it for the money. So the idea of turning down 10 million dollars to "build an empire" is pretty unrealistic. 99% of people would take a buyout offer if it was going to net them that kind of money (although of course the kind of negotiation on screen never happens). Maybe there is the crazy 1% of people who wouldn't, but that would be very rare, and they would not be seemingly reasonable people like the main kid. The press loves to talk about how the founders of Snapchat turned down a 3 billion dollar offer, but what they don't mention is that the founders already took 10 million dollars off the table during the previous financing round. When you already have 10 million dollars, it isn't as risky to try building a big company. This kid has no money, so there is no way he turns down 10 million bucks.

4) The compression thing is also very unrealistic. Had it not been lossless, it is perfectly reasonable (like when MP3 was invented and made sharing music possible -- lossy but shrank .wav file sizes by like 10x). But by throwing in "lossless", which they had no reason to do, it just ruins the feasibility of it.

So basically, this just strikes me as the writers are being lazy and not actually trying to make the little things right, and in comedy the little things are everything. It was just the pilot so I'll watch the rest of the season, but I'm not optimistic.

I also agree with this slate article about how it is a wasted opportunity: http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...portunity.html
You cant say his creation is totally unbelievable and that its a negative for the show. The whole premise is he creates something that people think is impossible and thats why its so valuable. I think its quite a clever idea considering it needs to be something he is unaware of the true value of and something your average Joe will instantly understand.

As for no.3. There are probably loads of examples of companies which are run by the creators. Not everyone sells when they have an option of making a lot lot more than 10 million. It would be stupid, and hes not broke because he has the guarantee of another investor. His networth is instantly in the millions because of the valution placed on the idea/company.
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04-10-2014 , 12:19 PM
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Seems to me Nip Alert was pretty grounded in reality

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That is what I thought of when I saw nip alert, its famous enough that its realistic that is exactly what the joke was based on.
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