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10-15-2008 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I also saw the previews and am also pissed. There's absolutely no way they could have misrepresented what happens.
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All I can tell for sure is-

1. Someone tries to kill Ronnie.
2. Julian has Two-man at gunpoint and arrests him.
3. Shane asks if "he" has started talking yet.

Now, the last scene in the epiosde makes it pretty clear Ronnie is gonna be a target. So, no surprise that he gets shot at or whatever. Also, no surprise that Two-man gets arrested for whatever reason. And Shane asking "has he started talking yet" is not even necessarily referring to Two-Man. That is what we are led to believe, but it could be from a different case as there is often a separate case in each episode along with the main storyline. That is all i got from the preview. Didnt seem particularly more revealing than past Shield previews. Or was there something i missed?
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10-15-2008 , 07:27 PM
Thanks for keeping the previews in a spoiler tag. Please no vague discussions about it at all -- I really don't want to have anything ruined here, and I'm sure others agree.

Last episode was pretty solid. Agree that it makes no sense for Vic to be working at this point. Other thing that was weird was the fact that he took money from Pezuilla in the open when he knows Pezuilla is under surveillance and in fact just saw a video tape from FBI (right?) which showed him meeting suspiciously with him. Makes no sense.

Shane's turned it on the past few episodes. I forgot he actually was a decent guy at points during the show -- not just in terms of morality but also in terms of being able to plan things and not be a complete screw up.

I hope they bring Tayvon back in some manner. I do appreciate the whole parade of past characters, and the bottom b*tch was a great pull, but I think Tayvon deserves better -- he was pretty central for a while.

Dutch continues to be the best character on the series, by far. Compare how much of a tool you thought he was initially versus how much respect you have for him now. Absolutely great stuff, I'm really disapointed more characters didn't turn out this way. Wow, typing that just made me think of all the past characters and made me kind of miss Lem. That was strange.

Anyway, now you guys have me all confused about what to expect next week so I have to avoid this thread.
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10-15-2008 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by boxedIn
Last episode was pretty solid. Agree that it makes no sense for Vic to be working at this point. Other thing that was weird was the fact that he took money from Pezuilla in the open when he knows Pezuilla is under surveillance and in fact just saw a video tape from FBI (right?) which showed him meeting suspiciously with him. Makes no sense.
Not quite. Vic was talking to Armando Rios



who was on the ICE watch list (which was initially covered up by Marita Covarrubius ) That's why he showed up on the surveillance video.

As for the meeting you are talking about, it may not be a bad thing if Vic knows he is on tape to be seen taking a payoff from Pezuela if he is supposed to be undercover.
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10-15-2008 , 07:44 PM
It makes me really sad everytime they show shane killing lem in the beginning of every episode.
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10-15-2008 , 10:52 PM
what exactly is so great about dutch in the last episode?
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10-16-2008 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Reup Gang
what exactly is so great about dutch in the last episode?
Dutch has shown himself to be a real stand up guy, when he wasn't at all initially. In the beginning he was pretty much always looking out for himself and thought he was the best no matter what. And as the series progressed he's become this person who does exactly what needs to be done to solve crimes or handle situations. It's not that he's necessarily great in the last episode, it's just that I love how he's evolved and how he handles himself now.

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As for the meeting you are talking about, it may not be a bad thing if Vic knows he is on tape to be seen taking a payoff from Pezuela if he is supposed to be undercover.
Maybe, but it didn't really come up later and he was never shown giving that money over to the feds. I mean yeah I guess things could've gone down that way, it just seems like a weird situation to not explain or at least show. And yeah, you're right it was Rios but it was still at Pezulla's construction site and he's got to assume he's under surveillance -- even if he's claiming to be undercover he was still worried about there being mikes before, and he's talking with Pezulla about blowing a sting that is most definitely not part of any undercover assignment he could ever claim. It just seemed weird.
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10-16-2008 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by boxedIn

Agree that it makes no sense for Vic to be working at this point. Other thing that was weird was the fact that he took money from Pezuilla in the open when he knows Pezuilla is under surveillance and in fact just saw a video tape from FBI (right?) which showed him meeting suspiciously with him. Makes no sense.
No, the surveillance video was of Armando Rios, and Vic gave an explanation for why he was talking to Rios. There was no footage of Vic with Pezuela.

Also, Vic is still working because he's gonna try his hardest to get his job back. In fact the first thing he did was go to Pezuela to see if he could pull some strings with the chief or the city, but Pezuela said no and ended their relationship. But I think Vic still has some tricks up his sleeve to try to keep his job. Unfortunately, there's like 6 episodes left of the whole series, so it would make sense for him to never be a cop again.

Last edited by private joker; 10-16-2008 at 03:29 AM. Reason: oops, OffTopic already pointed out the Rios thing, sorry
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10-16-2008 , 10:16 AM
Why would shane put a hit out on ronnie instead of vic? Killing vic would take the heat off of his family entirely since ronnie doesn't seem the type to continue vic's cause alone. But having ronnie killed would just fuel vic's need for revenge of shane even more.
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10-16-2008 , 10:36 AM
ohh hey, did anybody notice when vic pulled the ICE ladies file out of hte brief case, there was another file in there?

Like I said early, my brain gets confused with all these shows I'm watching, but what was the deal with that?
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10-16-2008 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HEK
Why would shane put a hit out on ronnie instead of vic? Killing vic would take the heat off of his family entirely since ronnie doesn't seem the type to continue vic's cause alone. But having ronnie killed would just fuel vic's need for revenge of shane even more.
It seems to me that Ronnie wants Shane dead more so than Vic does. When Vic set up Shane at the Mexi-Armo meeting, Ronnie was dead set against Vic calling it off. I think Vic wants revenge for Lem, while Ronnie sees Shane as a threat.

Speaking of which, its been sort of interesting to see Ronnie become an actual person on the show the last few seasons. The first 5 season, you could count Ronnie's lines on one hand. I was sort of hoping he'd become the new "Lem", sort of the moral compass of the Strike Team. Instead, he is sort of a Vic-lite. Good character at times, though.
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10-16-2008 , 11:28 AM
Ronnie rules because he's like the ultimate pragmatist. Whereas Vic and Shane seem to act out of emotion, Ronnie is just calculated. I love characters like that, and it makes him a nice foil to the other folks.

Am I the only one who was really hoping Dutch would find Claudette dead, if only because I just hate seeing her on screen?
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10-16-2008 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Ronnie rules because he's like the ultimate pragmatist. Whereas Vic and Shane seem to act out of emotion, Ronnie is just calculated. I love characters like that, and it makes him a nice foil to the other folks.

Am I the only one who was really hoping Dutch would find Claudette dead, if only because I just hate seeing her on screen?

I still throw-up in my mouth at the thought of her "shower-scene" with the guy she met at the Barn.
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10-16-2008 , 03:23 PM
You guys aren't feeling CCH POUNDS???

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10-16-2008 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Also, Vic is still working because he's gonna try his hardest to get his job back. In fact the first thing he did was go to Pezuela to see if he could pull some strings with the chief or the city, but Pezuela said no and ended their relationship. But I think Vic still has some tricks up his sleeve to try to keep his job. Unfortunately, there's like 6 episodes left of the whole series, so it would make sense for him to never be a cop again.
I thought Vic flashed one of those half smiles after Pezuela walked away, the inference being that the result of the conversation was as Vic planned.... something set up for later?
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10-16-2008 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by coyote
I thought Vic flashed one of those half smiles after Pezuela walked away, the inference being that the result of the conversation was as Vic planned.... something set up for later?
I saw that as well. It makes sense, because there's no way that he'd bring up being a "family man" as a genuine attempt to sway Pezuela, so that with the smirk definitely means he expected to be pushed away or didn't care. The only point to going out there was to pretend to tip Pezuela.
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10-16-2008 , 06:03 PM
+1 for Vic smiling after the Pezuela meeting.

On another note, is it weird for me to be pulling for Shane over Vic/Ronnie?
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10-16-2008 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
+1 for Vic smiling after the Pezuela meeting.

On another note, is it weird for me to be pulling for Shane over Vic/Ronnie?
To each their own.

Personally, I liked Lem, Shane got out of his depths with Antwan and Mara has always sucked, so it's impossible for me to root for Shane.
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10-16-2008 , 06:39 PM
I think either Shane or Ronnie will die by series end, most likely Shane, and Vic will survive but have to turn his shield (badge) over to Claudette in the final scene and walk out of the barn jobless, alone, and unloved. The end.
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10-16-2008 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by offTopic
To each their own.

Personally, I liked Lem, Shane got out of his depths with Antwan and Mara has always sucked, so it's impossible for me to root for Shane.
Yea I mean Shane obviously has done some big time scumbag stuff. Its not really a conscience decision that I think out or anything like that, I just find myself rooting for him even though I like Vic/Ronnie.
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10-16-2008 , 07:12 PM
I want Shane to die almost as bad as I want Claudette to die and Tina to actually show up in an ep where they tease some damn nudity wtf.
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10-16-2008 , 07:15 PM
I have always thought Shane was funny but I never liked him. I hope Ronnie kills his ass.
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10-16-2008 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blinden84
ohh hey, did anybody notice when vic pulled the ICE ladies file out of hte brief case, there was another file in there?

Like I said early, my brain gets confused with all these shows I'm watching, but what was the deal with that?
I thought that was when Acevada pulled the file out, and yes I noticed it too. I assumed Acevada had kept another file that would help him out and I assumed that was why he removed the files in the earlier episode.

Lets be honest Acevada is almost exactly the same personality as Vic. They both believe that they're doing more good then bad, but are basically just completely self-centered and will do almost anything to further their own goals.
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10-16-2008 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I thought that was when Acevada pulled the file out, and yes I noticed it too. I assumed Acevada had kept another file that would help him out and I assumed that was why he removed the files in the earlier episode.
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My guess would be that it's his (Aceveda's) own.

For as important a piece of intel that the blackmail box is, I can't believe Vic would not have taken the time to catalog its contents.
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10-16-2008 , 08:17 PM
yeah, the black box stuff has been pretty shoddy
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10-16-2008 , 08:21 PM
At this point the only people that I would feel a lem-like sadness for if they got got is prob...um, I can't think of anyone.
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