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04-02-2017 , 02:35 AM
Posted this in The Lounge, but coinciding with the thread bump, I'm reading True Blue which is written by Milch and the detective consultant from NYPD Blue, from 1995. It's Milch talking about the early days of the show (and his own health and gambling problems), and interesting cop stories mixed in. Very much worth reading if you love Milch (which you do if you're reading this thread). I have never watched NYPD Blue, it's not necessary. The book makes me want to watch it.
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04-04-2017 , 09:54 PM
Here's a Milch article from February. Sounds like he'll be fine.

http://buffalonews.com/2017/02/05/mi...g-pick-pieces/
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04-05-2017 , 06:46 PM
Damn man i got all kinds of excited when i saw this bumped with a bunch of replies
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04-05-2017 , 07:01 PM
Stop doing it!
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04-05-2017 , 07:01 PM
just stop!
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04-06-2017 , 06:03 PM
jay mohr is douchebag wow
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04-06-2017 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
jay mohr is douchebag wow
I was so pissed when I saw it however many years ago when they were getting ready to talk about how that GQ writer "got Deadwood" and Mohr interupts him and they move on to another topic.

I liked how Milch told Rappaport that he could write a great show for network TV that didn't have cussing.
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04-06-2017 , 10:28 PM
i totally agree that a show like deadwood would be a huge hit on network tv, with or without the cussing

it was interesting to me that a movie like unforgiven has no audience in france or germany. i thought they liked cowboys. maybe it's different now?
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04-09-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud
Stop doing it!
lol you, it was obv nothing new was happening here a week ago. if my post changed your perception, then thats not too sharp.
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06-22-2017 , 06:50 PM
nothing new, i've just been rewatching the series. really good stuff! but i been skipping over almost all the dustin hoffman parts. that part was boring to me. i love the degenerate gambler characters.

i also read they filmed the first episode of season 2! but never released it. i wish we could watch it.

and supposedly the main reason the show was cancelled is because david milch and michael mann hated each other's guts.

and supposedly david milch relapsed his gambling addiction because of this show. i wonder if he lost more money than the show made him
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06-22-2017 , 08:04 PM
Milch lost everything he owned, like nine figures, and went eight figures into debt. Luckily, he can still earn his way out of it.

Milch and Mann had worked it out. Milch had to turn in the scripts, then STFU. Show was canceled cuz lol lame horses.
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06-22-2017 , 10:26 PM
dayum, that is some serious gambling. and i thought i was on a bad losing streak
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06-23-2017 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Show was canceled cuz PETA Fascists.
FYP
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06-23-2017 , 07:06 AM
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While most observers felt that HBO decided to suddenly cancel the show before its promised 2nd season was due to the deaths of horses on the set, Richard Kind told the AV Club when he was interviewed for their "Random Roles" series that this was false and the show was nixed because of the terrible relationship between David Milch and Michael Mann. When Nick Nolte was also interviewed for Random Roles, he was asked about Kind's theory, and he responded "Yeah. I think he's absolutely right."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2427104/trivia?ref_=tt_ql_2
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06-23-2017 , 05:05 PM
That's funny.

Mann and Milch did a joint interview once, saying they had drawn boundary lines and worked it all out. I bought it.

It's kind of hard to believe they'd use such an embarrassing story as cover, especially to cover something that's not all that embarrassing. It's like ****ting your pants to distract folks from the scratch in your car fender.
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06-23-2017 , 05:20 PM
it might not be true. it might very well have been cancelled just because of the horses.
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06-26-2017 , 12:31 AM
Or maybe it was canceled because of the bad blood between Milch and Mann?

Unless it was over the horses.
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09-28-2017 , 07:06 AM
Found a random Nick Nolte interview tonight.

1. It was NOT "just the horses", it was Mann and Milch.

2. Ace was gonna gonna head down to the barn and tell Walter Smith, "I'm buying the track, I want a GM who will clean this place up and weed out all the crooked trainers, jockeys, etc--I want YOU to be that guy."

https://tv.avclub.com/nick-nolte-on-...n-a-1798253764
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09-28-2017 , 06:31 PM
Oh, the "feud or horses?" debate started here with a quote from Nolte from the very interview I stumbled upon last night, and linked above. I had never heard of this "Random Roles" series of interviews, but I started digging through them last night, and bookmarked at least 30 of them to get me started, from Richard Schiff to Chachi.

Here's the Luck stuff from Kevin Dunn, with a little Deadwood thrown in at the end:

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Luck (2011-2012)—“Marcus”
KD: Wow. That was kind of a once-in-a-lifetime thing. It was funny when we were first asked to come to the read-through after all of the auditioning was done. The auditions took forever. I think it was about a month and a half, and you’d spend hours with Michael Mann, and he’d have guys in there with still cameras taking shots while you were auditioning, and you just kept coming back! And he’d say, “Would you come back and read with this person? Would you come back and read with so-and-so?” And I was like, “Yeah, you bet!” But we never really knew that we had the job. Then all of a sudden we’re gonna do a read-through! So we’re all sitting in a conference room, and they pass the scripts out, and then Nick Nolte says [Gruffly.] “’Scuse me, Michael, I got a question for ya.” And Michael says, “Yeah? What is it, Nick?” And Nick says, “Does this mean we got the job?” And everybody in the room burst out laughing, because there was no way of knowing if you had the job or not!

But, anyway, it was such a rare experience. I had never done anything like that, but I had auditioned for Deadwood, and I love David Milch. It was just this kind of odd poetry that he wove together, and you really had to kind of figure it out. It’s almost Shakespearean, in a way. But we just had a great time shooting it, and I thought the show was really powerful. It was really cinematic. I mean, we saw it at a premiere on a big screen, and I just wish everyone could have seen it that way. It was just an incredible cast, and it was incredible stories. But, you know, it was about thoroughbreds, and thoroughbreds are, uh, difficult to keep alive. [Laughs.]

We had great people working on it, but there was a lot of pressure just because there were horses in it. The reality of it, though, was that the whole medical board of the racing industry was so happy with our show because they implemented safety things that hadn’t been implemented elsewhere. So it really got a bad rap because, I don’t know, horse people are just so dedicated to their horses. They’re just like their children. You read the stories about horses being starved at Santa Anita, but a horse can’t starve at Santa Anita! I mean, there’s just bags of carrots all over the place, food is everywhere. They don’t starve any horses! And I guess TMZ ran a story about how cold our production was, because on the day the horse died, on the call sheet it said, “Make sure to get your picks for the NCAA playoffs in!” So it seemed like we didn’t care that a horse had died, but those are written a week in advance!

So it was just constant, and I don’t really know why it eventually was canceled. I’m sure that was part of it, but who knows? I was with Ritchie Coster, who plays Lorenzo and is just fantastic, and he finally decided that he was gonna get a place, so he got a place over in Silverlake. And I knew of a little furniture place up in Canoga Park that had just an amazing amount of chairs and tables for cheap, beautiful stuff. So we went up to Canoga Park, and it was right after the horse reared up after the first show [of the second season] on one of the grooms and fell on his head. I had a very bad feeling that day, so I called my agent, but they were, like, “Oh, no, don’t worry, everything’s fine,” blah blah blah. So me and Ritchie get up there, we got all the stuff, picked out a nice set of chairs and a nice table, and we were driving back… and we get a call from David and Michael saying, “That’s it. We’re done.” I was just so shocked that the only thing I thought of to say was, “Should I pull over and try to sell this table and these chairs for Ritchie?” [Laughs.] But, I mean, that was it. We’d shot the first episode of the second season, we were in the middle of the second episode, and that was it. It was just a sad day.



AVC: As long as you’re breaking hearts, just to jump back to something you mentioned offhandedly a minute ago, what role did you audition for on Deadwood that we never got to see you play?

KD: Oh, it was for E.B. Farnum. But William Sanderson was so perfect for it. I saw him at the audition, and I knew he was gonna get it. I was like, “Okay, well, I’ll at least go and say ‘hi’ to David. Good luck with the role!” [Laughs.] You couldn’t cast anyone else but him in it, you know? But good things happened after that. When something like that happens, you just have to get over the shock and move on.
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09-29-2017 , 05:47 PM
Told my gf the "Does this mean we get the job?" story, and she realized that she's never seen Luck, so we watched the first two eps last night. Of course the pause button got a work-out, we needed captions, etc, but she really liked it.

This is the first time I've watched it WITH somebody. Her reaction to Tattered Flag's breakdown at the end of the pilot was like nothing I've ever seen from someone watching a movie or tv show. She half-stood, half-twisted, sat back down, looked away, cried out in horror, tried looking back a few times, looked away each time the horse's dangling hoof was shown, more cries of "Ohhhhhh!", hugging herself the entire time....it was wild.

While the vet was putting the horse down, gf declared, "I don't like that they did that to the horse!" She meant the fictional horse, to be clear.

I pointed out that it wasn't gratuitous, it illustrated that a day at the track isn't all fun and games, the horses and jockeys are literally risking their lives. She backed off her criticism.

When it was over, she wanted to leap immediately to Ep2.
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09-29-2017 , 06:12 PM
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She half-stood, half-twisted, sat back down, looked away, cried out in horror, tried looking back a few times, more cries of "Ohhhhhh!", hugging herself the entire time....

sounds like anytime i talk to a woman
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09-29-2017 , 09:32 PM
Michael Gambon was awesome in Luck.
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10-29-2017 , 05:15 AM
GF and I just finished. She loved it, esp the horses, lol.

This time around, I caught a great line from Trevor Denman I had previously missed, as Mon Gateau made a charge in his first stakes race: "....and this fugitive from the claiming ranks seems to have his rivals MEASURED!"

I had also missed:

--Lonnie's remark that Mon Gateau posted a better time that day than GUM+POP.

--When Renzo picks up his mom at the bus station, she calls him "Ritchie", which is the actor's first name, lol.
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12-29-2017 , 07:44 PM
Now that you guys know what a pick-6 is:

Yesterday at Gulfstream, one ticket was going to scoop the $570,000+ carryover, his 8-1 shot was ahead by daylight--but the jockey fell off a few yards before the finish line, disqualifying his horse.

https://deadspin.com/horse-loses-joc...tor-1821644906

final stretch run at 1:40 mark below

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12-30-2017 , 12:23 AM
oh my ****ing GOD "Luck": david milch + HBO + gambling = weeeeeeee
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