i know matt got into a ton of hot water recently about various comments he made (and the worst of those were comments that came later), but having now seen this show i cannot believe he apologised for the remarks he made in ep 1 about diversity. it's only just dawned on me hours later that that was the scene that caused controversy. he was 100% right. **** effie, again.

Yeah it's too bad because Matt has done a ton of work helping the less fortunate especially on behalf of the people of Darfur... shows how quick the Twitter PC police can turn against you.

Jason seemed to kill it in his first week of shoots. There was the "drama" about Effie pulling the plug after 12 hours, but i'm wondering if that doesn't go on all the time. OT is no joke.

The most interesting thing were the comments on the "Inside the Episode." Some serious villainizing of Effie seems to be coming up

Jason seems to be doing a good job on the set but the movie itself seems like it may end up being terrible. Of course we've only seen a couple of scenes but it seems to hinge entirely on how much you like the crazy brother character. Comedy is subjective, but doesn't seem like something I would find funny.

Also seems strange that it was so hard to get 25 signatures or whatever for night filming. Maybe some homeowners are out of town I guess.

Anyone know why season 3 is the only season not available on hbo go?

There was one season that didn't air on HBO. It was moved over to another network (bravo I think)for a season. Must have been season 3

oh ok makes sense, thanks

I wouldn't be shocked if several were vacation homes or owned by bicoastal people / globetrotters.

on episode 4

effie is the ****ing worst, dear god.

so cringeworthy her lecture in the first episode about diversity. damon wasn't having none of that. she actually was fine in episode 2, and then boom episode 3 she goes full ****** on the phone call with farrelly.

i'm picturing her spending her downtime ranting on twitter & tumblr about social justice

Can't imagine this does good for her carreer. Girl is a psycho, self-centric drama magnet.

Really have no idea wtf is with the Effie hate. The director freaks out about HOW DO WE TRANSITION TO NIGHT????? Um, show a sunset bro? **** happens, adjust.

And why was the wedding supposed to be at night anyway? Who has an outdoor wedding starting a night? What's the big deal starting it during the day? How does this kill his ARTISTIC VISION???

caught up to episode 6...really digging this show minus the effie stuff. this mann fellow has talent in multiple areas of the production process, and hopefully the whole thing isn't so rushed that the end product sucks.

i was kinda doubting the movie's quality based on what i'd seen so far, but the whipping scene and the airplane scene were both hilarious. his speed dating short was also hilarious.



what is frustrating about this show is that this is about what REALLY goes into making a movie, and someone like effie is 100% fired after the farrelly thing. but because they're making a tv show and she is a "character" and one that they think makes for good TV, she's allowed to keep causing trainwrecks.

No idea? Really?

I don't doubt that working with a director who doesn't want to compromise on anything is easy, but there's an easier way to handle it than how she's doing. Basically every time she interacts with anyone on anything it's done in a way that causes conflict. And then she gets super defensive and mad when people react to it.

That, plus she's self-centric, annoying and at times unprofessional with her behavior.

They really only show her interacting with Jason. And he's the one being a ****ing idiot and causing conflict.

Jason is the director. He runs the whole thing. He should ultimately answer to 1 entity, HBO, who is putting up all the money. The idea that HBO has a literal crazy person representing their interests would never happen in reality. The only reason I can discern that she is on the show is because they interviewed a bunch of producers, and she stood out as the worst by a mile, and they chose her specifically because she was so terrible.

Just in the most recent episode, it is 100% clear that Effie did not keep Mann in on the loop about the stunt. That's about the fourth thing she has done that warrants her removal from the project, with the Farrelly thing being the first and the "TWO DAYS OR FILM, DECIDE NOW?" being the second, and the "he's never worked a day in his life" badmouthing of the director being the third. She has no professionalism, no talent, and way too much drama.

Following up on a point I raised earlier, it just amazes how bloated these productions seem to be in terms of personnel.

Case in point - not only is there a "location director," but she appears to have her own assistant?! And lol at how it's proving harder for her to get 23 neighbor signatures than it was to organize the Yalta Conference. Sure - I get that these are likely rich NIMBY types and/or are difficult to track down, but when you're the location director and the location is selected, what else do you have to concentrate on doing with the hours you work in a day?

At the risk of derailing, this is exactly what I picture happens in fields dominated by unions. If this set was typical corporate America, I have to think there'd be maybe a third of the total people there, if even that.

It's not just that they're hard to track down, it's that they can just say "I'd rather you not" and that's that.

Since Effie changed the Chauffeur to a white guy in the last episode, does the mean the other guy got fired for being black?

I think they're moving him to a guest or something, he gets paid the day rate I'm sure either way.

Jason and Effie both come across as insufferable, although I find Effie just a little bit more annoying than Jason. Her flip out on the Farrelly brother seemed completely uncalled for, and her demeanor in general seems unnecessarily abrasive and confrontational.

The show is very entertaining though. I'll be very interested to see if the movie ends up being any good.

Jason was right to be confused about the stunt happening. Effies exact quote during their one-on-one meeting was:
In the exchange it's true that Effie never directly said that they can do the "flip", but had I been him, I would have certainly understood that to mean the stunt was on the table.

It seems from the way the show was edited, Jason's lack of appreciation for Effie's efforts finally bit him in the ass. It looks like she held it against him and so when the meeting with HBO happens later in the episode, she plays some serious semantics about the stunt never going down the way he ever wanted.

She comes across as the villain, but ultimately someone has to pay for all this. His air of entitlement and lack of compromise is not noble. It's ultimately self defeating if you can't rally the truly important people to your side. Read: those with the $$

except she's not important, at all

he has the important people on his side. HBO acquiesced to a new screenplay & using film & would probably do the stunt the way he wanted if he had come to them to ask for an extra $30k (and he made a compelling argument that this is what the movie absolutely needed). this is assuming that safety is maintained.

what she did was sabotage and mislead the director about the stunt, to the point where the deadline had already passed to get the roll cage ready.

effie should have been fired on the spot.

It is painfully obvious that every single person who had to deal with Effie finds her insufferable.

Also seems obvious that she has an inferiority complex about her position. She wants to be in charge, she wants to be the one calling the artistic shots. Lol at her reaction to Jason not thanking her for finding money to do the stunt his way (which, turns out she lied about that anyway). The budget is her job. How much ego stroking does she need for doing what she is paid to do?

I actually think Jason is awesome and I give him major props for not letting her steamroll him.

Unfortunately judging by Twitter comments at least, Effie is hugely popular and a vast majority of viewers think she's awesome. Which is pretty sad, and I think it says something about our culture. Being confrontational for confrontation's sake - even when it's unnecessary and hurtful to the overall project - is seen as an admirable quality. She was hired to help a first-time director navigate his first major shoot, and she's been an epic failure at that job. But everyone thinks she's great, because diversity.

Think it says a lot more about 2+2's culture that everyone hates the strong woman here than normal humans liking her.