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07-29-2016 , 05:47 PM
team flaca

- Ruiz is mad that she got more time on her sentence, soo she pulls a stunt that could screw her even more if Piper just goes to the guards.

- I dont know if I'm the only one, but the second Poussey came on the screen in ep 12, all happy with her gf, I knew she was dead. Then, when she gets the job offer from Judy, I thought it was laughably obvious. Maybe I know Matt Weiner too well. that first scene was so ominous.

- I think the finale was the much better episode. in the aftermath, everyone responds in unique character-based ways. flaca preparing to cry for the cameras was hilarious. and Luschek's scene where he just wants to address the flavored coffee in the breakroom.

- I dont like the thread this season that painted the guards are the big bad. i thought it was a bit too on the nose. the creators seem to really have an agenda against ex-military guys. maybe it becomes a larger commentary, but i dont need that out of this show.

- Agree with whoever said that Morello was probably the most compelling this season, and that the Watson character is total garbage.
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07-30-2016 , 01:25 AM
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07-30-2016 , 06:47 AM
i dont care what anyone says. she was a better character back then
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07-30-2016 , 06:57 AM
Yeah the head guard was too unrealistic. He was cartoon comical villain by the end. The rest of the guards are all much better imo. Even the insane guy is closer to reality than the boss.

I thought Lori Petty destroyed this season. She should win an Emmy.
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07-30-2016 , 07:30 AM
it was dumb when he threatened Caputo with "pulling his men."

yeah dude. theyre going to just leave their job and paychecks because you say so.
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08-10-2016 , 02:03 PM
Just binge-watched all 4 seasons. Some thoughts:
Glad they killed off Vee. Sad they killed off Poussey.
Piper gets more unlikable every season.
Really felt for Crazy Eyes when you learned why she is in prison.
I suppose the reason why they kept showing Caputo running into the old prison guards is because they're going to end up coming back and replacing the new ones.
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06-15-2017 , 12:00 AM
Anyone watch 2 or 3 eps of how terrible the new season is?

I think they got rid of star ratings in anticipation of house of cards and this abomination.

Amazon takeover coming.
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06-15-2017 , 12:45 AM
I actually like the new season a lot. Granted, it's completely ridiculous, but​ I'm not watching the show for it's realism.

I think I just finished episode 8.

House of cards has been pretty much unwatchable this season(struggled through only one or two episodes)
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06-15-2017 , 01:16 AM
Maybe I'll watch a couple more episodes, but yea, it's too ridiculous.

Also the agenda they're pushing is just way too tiring.
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06-15-2017 , 11:19 AM
I watched the whole season but wasn't overly impressed. It doesn't help that I find the two main characters hard to tolerate.
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06-15-2017 , 03:11 PM
Who are the 2 main characters? After 4 eps I think, the original main character has maybe 47sec total air time
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06-15-2017 , 04:30 PM
the thing i love about this show still carries through, that's seeing people that you'd never see on other shows... fat, old bulldykes, the mexican girl with terrible grooming, tasty, and the black jewish girl. and the white rejects too, like pennsatucky and the rest. and they are portrayed with humanity.

this season explored their humanity in a different way. they are all given the power. that's compelling to me, even if it is contrived.
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06-16-2017 , 12:47 AM
i just finished the last episode, and i thought it was really great! if you suspend your disbelief, it's really top notch tv. great acting, great tension, great drama
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06-16-2017 , 04:34 AM
Have finished the whole season.

I liked:

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Season built around a riot, and the concept that these women are not all a bunch of angels who are wrongly imprisoned; they get power, and they start abusing it and treating their hostages like garbage, with only a couple of them having any clue what they're trying to accomplish. The failure of the negotiations due to Taystee's demand for justice and the possible future repercussions towards her as a result. All of the Fig/Caputo stuff. The reaction of women who realize that freeing hostages might get them some individual leniency. Maritza & Flaca as Youtube stars. Piscatella brutality.


I didn't like:

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Piscatello as cartoonish Jason from Friday the 13th. The whole secret bunker idea. The weird guard idosyncracies about taking off pants, or going to the bathroom. Vause's whiny insistence that she turn herself in for defending her own life. Soso crying for 12 episodes straight.


I wouldn't say it's "must see" but I thought it was an ok season to watch.
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06-16-2017 , 05:39 AM
i didn't think piscatello was cartoonish. i was surprised at how his character was revealed. his backstory showed him in a different light, not just a villain.
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06-16-2017 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by nutsfl0pper
Anyone watch 2 or 3 eps of how terrible the new season is?

I think they got rid of star ratings in anticipation of house of cards and this abomination.

Amazon takeover coming.
QFWholefoods
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06-16-2017 , 04:07 PM
Watched two episodes so far and now that I'm aware of what the season's arc involves, I'm dreading finishing this. It is cool to watch the skinhead now that I know them from Billions.
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06-16-2017 , 04:13 PM
5 eps in I like s5, nice chance of pace with full season riot. I do like the series but I don't think I would wstch it alone tbh, good show for with the gf. And I couldnt care less about the backstory's out of prison most of the time at this point tbh
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06-16-2017 , 04:22 PM
i'm not sure if OITNB even said this, and if they said it i don't know if it's true... but i think one of the episodes talked about whole foods using prison labor. if this had been an amazon show, and amazon owned netflix that content surely would have been censored.

amazon just bought whole foods, or they are about to buy it
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06-16-2017 , 04:34 PM
According to google it is true
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Michael Silverman, a Whole Foods spokesman, said in a statement, "One of our core values as a company is supporting our communities. We felt that supporting suppliers who found a way to be part of paid, rehabilitative work being done by inmates would help people get back on their feet and eventually become contributing members of society.

"We do believe that voluntary work programs like this do help people learn skills to become productive members of society, we always want to make sure we are in-tune with our customers' wishes. That is why we decided to stop selling products made by inmate labor programs, and expect that those products will be off our shelves by April, 2016 if not sooner."

The inmates are paid between 74 cents to $4 per day, according to Adrienne Jacobson, Colorado Department of Corrections' legal services associate director
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/foods...ry?id=34258597
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06-17-2017 , 12:46 AM
Wow, that is so ****ing disgusting... 74 cents a day
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06-17-2017 , 11:00 PM
I am probably on the outer but I really enjoy the back stories.
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06-17-2017 , 11:15 PM
I like them too.... For the most part
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06-19-2017 , 03:08 PM
Spoilers through Ep 10.
Spoiler:
Why does Sophia decide to walk out of the minimum security prison knowing she’d be sent to max?

Piscatella story is just embarrassing. This show is never sure if it wants to be OZ or Friends (they submit to awards as a comedy), and now they throw Scream into the mix?

I’m not an expert on hostage and prison takeover negotiations, but if they know a hostage (and especially a guard) has been shot, I’d be shocked if their #1 priority isn’t going to be getting them released. It seemed ridiculous to me that any negotiating takes place until Hump gets, if not released, at least some sort of medical attention, yet that possibility hasn’t even come up. Of all the outrageous things that happened this season, this is the one that stretched my ability to suspend my disbelief beyond its limit.
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I am probably on the outer but I really enjoy the back stories.
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They’re good when they give backstory to characters we don’t know much about yet who have prominent roles in the current story, but this season there are too many about characters whose pasts we already know a lot about. By this point I don’t need to know anything else about Taystee, Red and Daya. Piscatella flashback was appreciated. Alison Abdullah and that other character (whose name I don’t even know) with the rich white girls’ school flashback don’t have a big enough role in the main story for me to care about their backstory. I usually enjoy the stories about how the inmates wound up in jail.

I fear this show is going the way of Weeds--a few great seasons and then Jenji Kohan runs out of ideas and the show turns into ridiculous unwatchable crap.
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06-19-2017 , 11:46 PM
Thanks Greg. Wasted enough time.
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