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11-27-2015 , 12:33 AM
Two episodes in and I have no idea what's going on.
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11-27-2015 , 01:14 AM
Amazon y u so bad at original series? Netflix is kicking your ass.
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11-27-2015 , 03:45 AM
Is the "release the whole season at once" method the streaming services use working out for them? On one hand it's cool that I can binge watch but in return I completely forget / don't care about for example Narcos, except for the week or so a year that I'll be streaming it, compared to the being engaged for months with weekly shows.
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11-27-2015 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Amazon y u so bad at original series? Netflix is kicking your ass.
Well to be fair Netflix's most expensive show (Marco Polo) was a huge failure.

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so hitler is the man in the high castle ya?
Don't think so, although I guess literally he is a man in the high castle.
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11-27-2015 , 06:08 AM
3 episodes in and I think I'm going to give up on this. That's a hell of a snoozefest. Too bad, the premise could have made for a great show.
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11-27-2015 , 10:54 AM
Thanks for this thread. Won't bother with this show
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11-27-2015 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Anssi A
Funnily enough there was no resistance in the books. I guess you need "heroes" for the show.
But that lead to a very real, and I think showkillling problem:

Why the **** would I want to watch Juliana and Frink and Blake when there are actual heroes?

The diner owner and his blonde friend were created for the show because the suits were afraid American audiences would balk at an America that meekly accepted fascism(pre-Trump candidacy). Which, OK, fine. But every time they were on screen, I wanted to learn more about them, and whenever they left, I wished they would come back instead of watching Frink's moron friend and Juliana's bad decisions rollercoaster.
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The second big reveal was handled so badly. Why did they have a film that was just the main characters? Why did Juliana and Frink instantly assume that the magic film from an alternate universe meant that Blake was a Nazi in this one?

POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR A BOOK THAT HAS BEEN IN PRINT FOR DECADES, NO SPOILER BOX BECAUSE GET A LIBRARY CARD OR SOMETHING IF YOU CARE

The actual plot of the book is nearly entirely different with just a handful of the same characters, generally doing entirely different things.

In the book, The Man In The High Castle is the author of a novel about how the Allies could've won, he wasn't collecting magic films(that he made? The show is real confusing on that point. Where are these films coming from?).

Joe was a Nazi assassin trying to kill that author. Juliana was some chick Joe was banging while he waited for an opportunity to assassinate the Man.

Frink is a jewelry maker who pretty much just makes jewelry. There's the same "German traitor giving plans to the Japanese" plot but the Smith character and his relationship to the traitor is all new for the show.

Juliana kills Joe in the books. The trade minister has a weird cross-universe trip into our reality caused by meditation. I Ching is a major plot element of books instead of just a throwaway thing we saw the trade minister messing with once.
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11-27-2015 , 10:42 PM
I enjoyed the show but
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wish more happened instead wasting a lot of time on dumb stuff.
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11-28-2015 , 03:03 AM
i enjoyed the show too but HATED the theme song. imo you need a good theme song. welcome back kotter coasted for 4 seasons off their theme song
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11-28-2015 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i enjoyed the show too but HATED the theme song. imo you need a good theme song. welcome back kotter coasted for 4 seasons off their theme song
I quite liked it and found it fitting. It has nationalistic and Germanic feel. It also is from 1959 so it fits the time period.
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11-28-2015 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Webb18
I enjoyed the show but
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wish more happened instead wasting a lot of time on dumb stuff.
agreed
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11-28-2015 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Anssi A
I quite liked it and found it fitting. It has nationalistic and Germanic feel. It also is from 1959 so it fits the time period.
Sound of Music song, actually used there as an anti-Nazi pro-Austria song. Aside from that quibble, it seems pretty perfect for this show's opening.
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12-01-2015 , 09:28 PM
So I guess...

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Trudy was in the market and brought the film over.


I thought the first few episodes were good then it grinds to a halt. Felt like they were cutting corners by cutting to office building interiors for no reason over and over. What was it like 50 scenes in that guys office?
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12-01-2015 , 10:42 PM
I'm 2 eps in and don't much care about this. I liked the book, though. This is slower, and worse than the book. There's no film in the book...it is instead an alternate history novel. More plausible!

Fatherland would make a good miniseries, and is another good read if you like alternate history.
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12-06-2015 , 02:48 AM
This show reminded me a lot of Twin Peaks in that drama and tension were constantly building up but by the end of the show almost none of the plot twists had been resolved. A good show shouldn't have to create so many disconnected storylines to maintain excitement. In addition to the obvious question of wtf is going on with the alternate universe(s) and how easy it is to transition between them, there were many random scenarios created by the writers simply as cliffhangers and without fitting in with the overall plot.

I haven't read the book (should I, or will I be equally disappointed?) and I also don't know whether or not more seasons are intended, but so far this show leaves a lot to be desired.
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12-06-2015 , 03:42 AM
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I'm 2 eps in and don't much care about this. I liked the book, though. This is slower, and worse than the book. There's no film in the book...it is instead an alternate history novel. More plausible!

Fatherland would make a good miniseries, and is another good read if you like alternate history.
same here, really wanted to enjoy it but am having a hard time getting thru eps
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12-06-2015 , 05:53 PM
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Fatherland would make a good miniseries, and is another good read if you like alternate history.
If you're looking for another similar book, I'd suggest hunting down a copy of SSGB - crime/espionage novel that takes place in nazi-occupied England following the German victory.
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12-08-2015 , 04:11 PM
My wife and I loved the first season. Neither of us have read the book. I like the pace. It sets up for more seasons.
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12-09-2015 , 11:01 AM
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I watched 4 episodes and it's pretty uneven so far. There's an absolutely massive unexplained plothole that wastes a huge chunk of time, it just seems like they wanted to spin their wheels by creating unnecessary drama

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Why they don't just kill the Marshal? Blake has several opportunities, so does the resistance guy. Blake reveals a critical secret to him in public rather than just shooting him, then there's that whole elaborate con where Juliana could've easily shot him too instead of trying to trick him into thinking she's dead.

I just finished episode 4, so weird for me to weigh in, but I'm guessing the answer is either / or / some combo of

- the Marshal is allied with the Nazis so Blake doesn't want to kill him
- Juliana is just a normal person, she doesn't feel up to the task of trying to shoot someone / maybe missing / maybe getting herself killed
- Blake killing the Marshal would being lots of attention on him he maybe doesn't want?
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12-18-2015 , 11:20 PM
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My wife and I loved the first season. Neither of us have read the book. I like the pace. It sets up for more seasons.
Same for me. I just finished watching the last 3 episodes today and cannot wait for season 2. It is not perfect. There are some things they could clean up, but having never read the book, I came into this with a clear mind. Ridley Scott directing helped convince me to even watch it honestly but I am glad I did.
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12-24-2015 , 03:22 PM
Finally got a fire stick, so I'm going to binge watch this sucker...loved the PKD book.
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12-25-2015 , 05:59 PM
5 episodes in and I'm enjoying this...
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12-26-2015 , 06:16 PM
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5 episodes in and I'm enjoying this...
Then you'll definitely enjoy the remaining episodes since the first half was worse than the 2nd half
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01-05-2016 , 03:06 AM
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I'm 2 eps in and don't much care about this. I liked the book, though. This is slower, and worse than the book. There's no film in the book...it is instead an alternate history novel. More plausible!

Fatherland would make a good miniseries, and is another good read if you like alternate history.
There is a fatherland movie. It is good but story not nearly as deep or good as MITHC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUnHTe_tjmY

Watched Man in the High Castle twice. I am surprised some people were bored but I love drama.
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01-07-2016 , 08:45 PM
Surprised to see so many in this thread not liking the show.

Just finished the whole season and really liked it. Loved the intrigue and double-crossing.

Smith is a fantastic character. Juliana and Frank and Joe are all okay, but not great.

Loved the Trade Minister and the Inspector characters. Fantastic actors. But my favorite was probably Wergener/Wernerer whatever his name is. The traitor Nazi.

Interesting premise...did Julianna really see Trudy from an alternate universe bringing films over? Is the Trade Minister in a different reality for good now?
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