joel seemed like he was going through the motions before he quit, but none of the final cast seemed that way at all to me. in fact when it was cancelled everyone involved in the show went on to do similar projects for video.
after a long hiatus, though. and the form of their projects is much different - i get the sense that none of them would choose to be on television again.
There's really no more love for Cheers in this thread since my post on the 1st page? I can hardly remember a bad show and it's gotta be in the argument for best sitcom of all time.
Cheers is probably my favorite show ever. I watched it growing up and it ran clear until I was in college so it basically spans my youth. I could probably lip sync half the episodes.
But if the criteria for "going out on top" is "as good as the show ever was", Cheers certainly doesn't qualify. It was good at the end - certainly above average - but had nowhere near the quality or heart of the earlier years. It had basically devolved into slapstick / cheap jokes, albeit ones that worked more often than not.
In rewatching, the first season or two with Kirstie Alley were outstanding - better than I recall, because I remember thinking that Shelley Long's retarded decision to leave was going to be the show's undoing. But really it was kind of a blessing in disguise because her character had already run its course and the whole Evan Drake / Robin Colcord stuff was sometimes hilarious, as was a lot of the stuff they did with Frazier and Lilith. None of this may have happened if Diane was still around. So, if Cheers had called it quits 2-3 years into the Alley era I would probably agree.
A better answer may be something before my time like Gunsmoke, which had a really long run and for some reason ended up becoming really popular again at the tail end, or Mary Tyler Moore or something like that.
It was the jump the shark bit, that too many haven't a ****ing clue as to what it means. It has nothing to do with personal preference in a series, if you don't like it, that ain't a stunt.
it is most often used popularly to just refer to when a show runs out of fresh ideas and declines in quality or starts repeating old plot lines etc. it doesn't necessarily specifically mean resorting to stunts.
There's really no more love for Cheers in this thread since my post on the 1st page? I can hardly remember a bad show and it's gotta be in the argument for best sitcom of all time.
because most people think the early years were the best. doesn't mean it's not loved.
Oh and I remember as a kid being massively tilted that The Cosby Show, which ran an hour earlier on the same night on NBC, was regularly the #1 show on TV and got all the press when it was clearly inferior to Cheers. The ****ing Cosby Show. I attempted to watch an episode of that awhile back, it was horrible.
because most people think the early years were the best. doesn't mean it's not loved.
This has to be one of the few times I can ever remember that a new character came in to take the place of an old beloved one and become a loved character himself. Talking about Coach and Woody of course. Coach was the best of course, but I don't remember the show dropping much throughout it's entire run and thought the finale was great. Unless you consider from really great to still pretty great a big drop. But then again it was a long time ago and I was much younger so maybe I remember it differently.
Angel is still the correct answer. The final season is its best season
Godammit. It's been a couple of years and now you've got me dusting off my season 5 dvds. Here we go again.
I'm doing a quick review of the season 5 episodes and I'll be damned if "A Hole in the World" isn't one of the most gut-wrenching episodes of television I've ever seen. That last Fred/Wesley scene is so heartbreaking.
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the finale episode is the best episode, and the final scene is the best scene.
if they went out when they originally meant to with "Limbo" and didn't have that season 8 money grab, Magnum PI would kill this thread. Interestingly, though, some of the best eps of the series were in the add on season 8, but some of the worst as well.
Oh and I remember as a kid being massively tilted that The Cosby Show, which ran an hour earlier on the same night on NBC, was regularly the #1 show on TV and got all the press when it was clearly inferior to Cheers. The ****ing Cosby Show. I attempted to watch an episode of that awhile back, it was horrible.
You might want to re-visit that show. The first season, at least, in my opinion, was amazing, and probably a good portion of the second season was as well. I started watching it again, when it was on Nick at Nite about 11 years ago, and consistently laughed hard at the early part of the series. It makes 100 percent sense it was number 1 as long as it was, though it got very very bad by the end. I actually really enjoyed Cosby on CBS, as well, which I think was more solid than The Cosby Show throughout its run.
Cheers was a very unique comedy, and it stands up extremely well, today (Cheers and The Golden Girls reruns on Hallmark Channel were worth the watch, even today). It's clear that Are You There, Chelsea? is trying to emulate Cheers, albeit not very well.
What about The Wonder Years? I loved the series but it's been so long I can't remember if the show dipped in the final years or remained strong throughout.
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