I was pleasantly blown away. I thought this was supposed to be an unmitigated disaster. What can I say except everything was fantastic.

This was actually very good, the dialog was refreshingly not really stupid for network tv. Had a very BBC feeling feeling for me (kind of like something between Luther and Wallander) with a digital edge.

Like what i see, some good actors mixed in with some unknowns and what seems like a solid story, although almost everyone knows the ending

I knew it would be a slam dunk for you. I probably should have said something...lol.

Suprised at how much I liked it but I didn't catch hannibal's response to Will asking his opinion of him
sounds like he says the mongoose hides while the snake slithers by??

something like he's the snake he wants under the house when the snakes slither by. Basically a compliment.

Mongoose under the house.

Mongooses (Mongeese?) kill snakes by being an even more badass predator. Its basically a compliment and/or a neg hit.

ok great thanks

Anything like this, serial killers, crime etc. is up my alley. I went through a bender after black friday watching investigation discovery. When I first heard about the series I thought it would be a disaster. Then it got some good reviews and I figured it'd be a good show, maybe good enough to dvr. Like I said I was blown away. Any chance the set designer for grimm was involved in this?

looked up imdb guess it isn't the same set designer.

It has a very similar look to Fuller's other show this season Mockingbird Lane. If I read the credits right on the DVR, it looks like the show is done Ontario, Canada, but don't quote me on that.

You might want to check out Bates Motel if you haven't already.

You want to see some ****

And what is the mongoose have to eat for then next week? Cobra.

Mads has a very tough shoes to fill as Dr. Lector has been portrayed terrifyingly by anthony hopkins. I have to say he carries that same combination of intelligent accent, quiet intensity and outer charm extremely well really loving this show

lol was too tired

meant mongoose under the house.

I assume at some point we'll see the explosion of violence as well. It builds up so well in the film, the threat that this man carries and the damage he can do is almost tangible even when he is locked in a cell. Then when he gets loose you see all of that threat realised in such a brutal and seemingly effortless way as his true self is released.

The show is shot in Toronto, Ontario and surrounding areas, i've got a friend who is one of the minor characters in an upcoming episode (7, 8 or 9) she wasn't sure of airing order. She is the Opera singer you can see in the main trailer for the show and one of the dinner guests in the same trailer. No spoilers i know nothing and neither did she NDA etc.
She did say Mads is a super nice and genuine person which should be a shock to absolutely no one. She was glad to meet him and work with him.

Show looks good, i'm a little worried about the potential of the writing to screw this up. It's super tricky to have a super genius character and not make the audience bored or feel dumb. In Sherlock and Doctor Who they manage to do this well as you are along for the ride the whole time so to speak. But considering how unrelateable the 2 main characters are, and how smart they are it could be trouble. The main character just sort of solved things with magic and super smarts without really letting the audience in on it (like Sherlock), of course this could not matter at all depending on how the show and the plot lines play out.

That's an interesting point, but it speaks to something about certain types of procedurals. Many procedurals beg the audience to solve the crime along with the protagonists, while others are just for character study and going along for the ride (Criminal Minds fits into this, as well, as they typically show the killer). This show is very similar to Sherlock, in that regard, as I don't remember ever feeling a compelling desire to solve the cases in Sherlock, while that's something I typically do on almost every other procedural. I wasn't even thinking of trying to solve the crimes in Hannibal, I was just interested in watching Will "solve" it, and the character studies around it.

oh absolutely I remember vividly when the movie came out and lector finally starts his violence with these careful and brutal arm slashings. it was incredible. all you saw was his hands slashing so slowly and yet and so efficiently brutal

NBC hasn't even added it to its OnDemand on DirecTV according to my buddy, is this a bad sign? This show getting cancelled would send me into a cannibalistic rage.

I seem to remember there being an ad on DVR for you to check it out On Demand and online, so I don't think you should read anything into that. The network will probably know within a week whether it will be more likely to get canceled or renewed (the Live+7 day DVR ratings will tell them if they have a hidden gem), but we won't know that for probably another 2 weeks. Its live ratings aren't great (kind of on the bubble), but the subject matter would typically steer people away from watching it before bedtime, which makes me optimistic it will do well in DVR ratings.

An example of where this kind of dynamic is written really well is the anime Death Note. You basically have a cat and mouse between a genius killer and detective who are both playing on a different level to everyone else involved in the case. It's also not too out there as anime goes and so is a decent gateway if you haven't seen much before.

Yeah there are a bunch of things that have done it well, but a lot more that try and fail.

I haven't watched Anime in over a decade (other than Ghibli movies) i always find that the series' in general just go on wayyyy to long, and i watch enough stuff as it is. I have heard good things about it though.

NBC's Hannibal Won't Initially Feature Lecter As The Villian

I think that actually sounds pretty great. It looks like they're potentially going to emulate the storytelling formula of Grimm (hook them in, and then expand the universe in a slightly more serialized way), which is the second best hybrid serialization on network TV behind Person of Interest. Him pitching it as 7 seasons should make people a lot more comfortable with it. I'm not sure NBC would be happy about 13 episode seasons, but if they're co-productions, and they can put them on Fridays with Grimm, maybe. Fuller should just be prepared for them to expand it out to 22 at any given point. It looks like he's trying to push for a no hiatus form of storytelling, which I am completely down for.

Huge fan of the books and movies. Thought this was very well done. Had a hard time understanding Lecter in spots, but I'll get used to it I think. The guy playing Graham is fantastic.