The second detectives acting is so bad i can barely watch the show because of him. He is over acting like crazy in every god damn scene he is in.

No spoiler since he's named in the episode. The Dollmaker.

Crappy hyper-violent villain introduced a couple years ago as part of a terrible Joker storyline. Was already used in Arrow so I guess the upside is we'll probably get an answer to whether or not there's any inter-series continuity.

2nd ep was pretty good and a good example of what the show could be.

I have no idea if this needs spoilers or not. It's a question for those more familiar with the DC comics:

Yes.

Yes

I know. It's soooo brutal

Screw you guys, Donal Logue is epic, and the hamminess fits the cowboy cop role perfectly.

If you didn't like him here you would have hated him in Copper though.

He was pretty good on Vikings and sons of anarchy. He is way to animated on this show for some reason.

he was probably told to act this way but yeah hes probably overdoing it

He was good in the one season Terriers aired as well.

Really enjoy Donal Logue's acting. He was far and away the best part of Grounded for Life

Judging by the cell phones and the cars, this is supposed to take place in the current time period, which makes Batman the future. I haven't really seen a lot of other technology to confirm this though, so I'm wondering if it's maybe 10-15 years ago and current time would be the beginning of Batman.

Yeah it's weird, it has a very pulp 50 ' s feel to the detective work, but seems to enjoy current technologies.

I know there is actually a term for this type of time frame blending, but I cannot come up with the term

Well Batman is what, 75 years old as a character? So what would be the "right" time period to set it anyway? They had cellphones in Batman Begins too.

Begins is obviously the present though. The pulpiness of this gives it a much more 50s vibe

I think Gotham is supposed to be a third-world or borderline-third world city in a world that's like 50 years ahead of ours technologically (though set in the present).

So it makes sense that it would be pulpy. If you go to present-day Bangkok you will probably find a similar environment, except with more shanties.

wat?

gotham is pretty much DC's version of new york. furthest thing from 3rd world.

Uh, no, that would be Metropolis.

Basically the way they set it up is, Metropolis = bustling, wealthy tech marvel; Gotham = shtthole.

Present-day depictions of Gotham City are closest kin to Detroit, and entirely too dilapidated to be New York. In fact, in DKR it is specifically alluded to that Gotham skirts a very large lake, which one can very easily assume is Lake Michigan.

Thought the second one was definitely better, and was also really surprised when it was over. That's a good sign. I missed the humor of the first episode, and think that Logue's overacting (intentional) is only a problem when he doesn't have comedic lines. It's funny that this part is right in Jada's wheelhouse, and she's almost turning in a Razzie worthy performance. All she needs to do is read the lines wry (the way she does a lot of parts) and she's right there. Not sure at all what she's doing (like some butchered Shakespeare type reading), and whether it's her or the directing. Guess we'll find out in episode 3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmagu...8periodical%29

Gotham has been a nickname of NYC since 1807.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_City

So? Notice that that description matched the absolutely most seedy areas of New York, during a time that New York was quite frankly a crime-ridden cesspool (e.g. not post-Giuliani New York). Regardless of what Gotham might have been when it was created in the Sixties, it's still portrayed (with good reason) as a borderline-third world city and a very unpleasant place to live. New York has outgrown that reputation, and thus it's no longer accurate to compare New York to Gotham.

Again, remember how in DKR Batman took the nuke out over a lake so it wouldn't blow Gotham up? New York is not on the shoreline of a lake. There is one city that is, however, and it's as dilapidated and crime-ridden as Gotham, and it sits on the shores of this lake. Care to guess what it is?

First of all, while I could be wrong, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lake he brought the bomb out over, but the ocean. Second of all, even if you are correct, using one non-canon source to pin the location of a city in another non-canon story is silly. Otherwise, we could place Metropolis in Kansas due to the Smallville TV show.

No, was pretty explicitly stated to be a lake.

Yeah but that is not my point. My point is that Gotham is a ****hole -- far and away more of one than modern-day New York is. It is, by the very advanced in-universe technological standards set by Metropolis, very backwards, impoverished, corruption-ridden, and for all intents and purposes either third-world or very close to it. The intended real-world equivalent location of Gotham is irrelevant to this because Gotham does not exist in our world. It is ****ing third-world on its own right.

Developmentally, if we say that Metropolis is equivalent to any well-off American city (not just New York), then Gotham, which is at least 50 years behind technologically, wouldn't even be comparable to Detroit -- it'd be more comparable to something like Mexico City or Bangkok or São Paulo. It's just not a nice place to be.