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Old 05-19-2012, 08:28 AM   #1906
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Why does Pycelle keep coming up? Isn't his role resolved? He told Tyrion he's always served the Lannisters, even back to the Targaryen days. Not that it matters anymore, Tyrion had him removed from power. I'd be surprised if he ever made more than a passing appearance again.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:33 AM   #1907
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I don't understand how you can have watched the same episode I watched and not be 95+% certain LF knows it's Arya, assuming no prior knowledge. The fact that multiple supposedly decent tv watchers go the opposite direction makes me feel like there might be prior knowledge though, just so weird otherwise.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:44 AM   #1908
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I thought the clear implication was LF noticed something very familiar about Arya but couldn't quite get a good look at her. I thought him mentioning catelyn and the daughters was completely natural and served to add to the (kinda cheap) suspense of the scene.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:58 AM   #1909
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Why does Pycelle keep coming up? Isn't his role resolved? He told Tyrion he's always served the Lannisters, even back to the Targaryen days. Not that it matters anymore, Tyrion had him removed from power. I'd be surprised if he ever made more than a passing appearance again.
He symbolizes the direction Tyrion is trying to steer the Lannister house vs. Cersei/Tywin.

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Old 05-19-2012, 10:59 AM   #1910
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I thought the clear implication was LF noticed something very familiar about Arya but couldn't quite get a good look at her. I thought him mentioning catelyn and the daughters was completely natural and served to add to the (kinda cheap) suspense of the scene.
He certainly recognized her. It just shows who LF serves... himself. He never wants the balance of power to shift too far in one direction, and giving the Lannisters another hostage would do just that.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:01 AM   #1911
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I don't understand how you can have watched the same episode I watched and not be 95+% certain LF knows it's Arya, assuming no prior knowledge. The fact that multiple supposedly decent tv watchers go the opposite direction makes me feel like there might be prior knowledge though, just so weird otherwise.
FTR, there could be no prior knowledge in this particular instance.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:01 AM   #1912
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Jeoffery is even more hilarious on the show than in the book... bravo to that actor. Also the guy playing Theon is crushing it.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #1913
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FTR, there could be no prior knowledge in this particular instance.
no? you mean that scene isn't included anywhere in the books, and it's a made for TV moment?

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Old 05-19-2012, 11:32 AM   #1914
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no? you mean that scene isn't included anywhere in the books, and it's a made for TV moment?
I can confirm that he is correct (that the people who are drawing a different conclusion than you are not spoiled). There's really no need to elaborate, for the reason you've implied.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:16 PM   #1915
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He (Pycelle) symbolizes the direction Tyrion is trying to steer the Lannister house vs. Cersei/Tywin.
All your posts have been good, including this one.

Another purpose that the Pycelle character serves in my eyes is to demonstrate that not ALL the schemers have some grand, elaborate end game in mind.

Pycelle is most definitely playing politics- he went behind Tyrion's back to curry favor from Cersei, he played a small role in the demise of Jon Arryn, and of course he's been throwing everyone off by pretending to be much more old and feeble than he really is. But that doesn't mean he's got major ambition, like Littlefinger and Varys seem to. He may simply be seeking to maintain his position at court, where he's well fed and well whored. (Who knows? Perhaps he's got us all fooled, but this seems the most likely scenario to me right now.)

That's what I like about the character. It illustrates the many layers to the game of thrones- some play to win the throne, some play to win a title, and some just play to win a hot meal and a bed.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:55 PM   #1916
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pycelle is done.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:25 PM   #1917
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Littlefinger 100% knows it's Arya. I can't imagine he doesn't. Of course he wouldn't just mention it right away. Why would he want to intentionally give up his leverage or ability to take advantage of the situation? And he's also in the middle of, you know, trying to arrange for Jamie to be returned in exchange for the 2 girls.

LF is perhaps slightly arrogant, but extremely cunning and at least somewhat self-aware of his arrogance. He's either the #1 or #2 most intelligent character on the entire show (Tyrion being his only other competition).
I agree, I also got the impression that LF noticed/realized Arya's presence.

But I doubt LF is more intelligent than Tywin.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:27 PM   #1918
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Is there two or three more episodes?

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Old 05-19-2012, 11:19 PM   #1920
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i think LF would glance in Arya's direction when he say's "concerning her daughters" if he knew.
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