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Old 06-27-2011, 10:05 PM   #3601
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Personally, I don't understand all this arguing over who has better prose. I don't read stories to say "wow, the writer really can put words together", I read so that I can say "wow that plot and those characters are amazing". As long as those elements are coming across, I am happy. If I cared about who was best at choosing words I'd read poetry.
oh the point was that someone ASKED ABOUT IT
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:12 PM   #3602
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Only one thing in this post has to do with style of prose which is the only thing I was talking about. In other words, none of the ways Martin is better than Tolkeane you've listed have any reason to be exclusive to the books, which is the question I was answering in the post you took issue with. Someone asked whether reading the book was worth it or just watch the show, as he liked the plot points, but wanted to know if Martin's writing style was any good. That's all I was saying Tolkeen was better at.

You may agree (I think you do), others do not. Either way, you've made me want to re-read the Silmarillion again.
I defy anyone to display less of an understanding of writing than this.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:13 PM   #3603
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Tolkien's style is lyrical, Martin's is brusque and straightforward. Both of them fail miserably at times, both of them succeed admirably at times. But you can't put the stylistic elements side-by-side to compare, because there's virtually no similarity. Tolkien goes for misty-eyed wonder and larger-than-life archetypes, Martin goes for grit and psychological realism.

Both have serious flaws as writers, and both are able to accomplish some remarkable and unusual things. But comparing them is like asking "who's better, Tolstoy or Yeats?"
Exactly right.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:15 PM   #3604
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Yes, when making comparisons, nothing but the primary function of the two things in question should be compared...
I hope this was sarcasm. Otherwise, this statement is wrong as applied to anything ever.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:32 PM   #3605
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Thread got awesome!!

(But only for writing geeks like me)
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:34 PM   #3606
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maybe you writing geeks should make your own thread some where else
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:57 PM   #3607
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+1 can we quit comparing authors and talk more about GoT show, plot, characters, predictions for next season, etc plz? all this literature talk is making my head asplode...and not in a good way
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:18 PM   #3608
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Oh ya I was going to make predictions
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:52 PM   #3609
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Predictions: Season 3 will be amazing when the Dothraki start their land invasion and F things up.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:53 PM   #3610
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Good show.

Overrated itt, but very good nonetheless.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:26 AM   #3611
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WTF, did OOT get a book forum?
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:31 AM   #3612
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not much else to talk about,

if you guys wanna add interesting subjects you are welcome.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:29 AM   #3613
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So Arya is going to the wall? Which means she will meet up with Jon and they will probably run off together and get married...

Martin is too predictable...

Also she stumbles across her wolf on the way to the wall and her wolf and ghost create an army of wolves to take over the Seven Kingdoms.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:06 AM   #3614
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you sound like a genius!!!1
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:03 AM   #3615
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Bad time of day for spoilers to be posted as no mods are around. They're still there incase anyone else is reading bottom up.
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