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Old 07-25-2011, 09:20 AM   #2656
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George RR must have a marketing deal with the bread bowl folks at Panera because every goddamn stew is served in a "trencher, hollowed out from yesterday's loaf of bread."

7,000 years of civilization and they can't invent a bowl?
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Old 07-25-2011, 09:31 AM   #2657
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The more i read up on theories on westeros.org, the harder my mancrush on George RR. Martin gets. I've started rereading GOT, and I can't fathom how it's possible that he had planned out every story arc right down to all the details and subtle clues from the very beginning.
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:20 AM   #2658
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Great post amplify,I read most of them on westeros but nice to see them all together in a list like that. Might have saved me a few hours there if i'd seen that beforehand. One question.

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Old 07-25-2011, 10:46 AM   #2659
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:53 AM   #2660
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:09 AM   #2661
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:05 PM   #2662
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Great post amplify,I read most of them on westeros but nice to see them all together in a list like that. Might have saved me a few hours there if i'd seen that beforehand. One question.

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Old 07-25-2011, 12:36 PM   #2663
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Thanks amplify. Good sleuthing job by whoever figured that out.
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George RR must have a marketing deal with the bread bowl folks at Panera because every goddamn stew is served in a "trencher, hollowed out from yesterday's loaf of bread."

7,000 years of civilization and they can't invent a bowl?
Trenchers were ubiquitous until the inventions of the sandwich and the wooden trencher, a kind of wide flat bowl which eventually evolved into the dinner plate.

Your question assumes that a bowl is superior to a trencher, much like asking why eons of civilization in China failed to produce the fork. Given sanitary conditions in the middle ages, throwing your bowl to the dogs and/or the poor, and cutting all your meat with your own dagger was probably the safest course.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:01 PM   #2665
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I learned quite a few vocabulary words from ADWD.

Niello - a black mixture of copper, silver, and lead sulphides, used as an inlay on engraved or etched metal

Motte - A stand of trees, a grove

Leal - Scottish Archaic - loyal and honest

Limned - 1. Described in painting or words. 2. Suffused or highlighted with a bright color or light. (Jon's future is limned in Melisandre's fires, in tongues of red and orange)

Senechal - A steward

I agree with many of the criticisms regarding the plotting, especially wrt Dany, but GRRM's actual writing just keeps getting better and better.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:29 PM   #2666
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Some references to other books I noticed in ADWD

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Old 07-25-2011, 01:41 PM   #2667
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:08 PM   #2668
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I agree with all of ILoseflips' theories.
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