clark should have sacked up like barry did, but he was a ****ing wussbag.

imo he shouldve wound up with lana for the long haul but he ****ed it up that piece of **** bag.

clark being single probably kept the ratings high

Eddie Thawne could be Doctor Zoom/Reverse Flash, if applying comic book reasoning, as 'Eobard' Thawne is Zoom/Reverse , but as StuckinARutt points out, Arrow has red herring-ing the **** out of all expectations, to keep both viewers and comic geeks 'happy'. Arrow is pretty good, Flash isn't even close to good. I hope it get's better when they replace Barry.

Also cool that she did not immediately run into his arms after he said it.

Ending was definitely a red herring. Classic mid season break bait.

I don't think Wells is the Reverse-Flash cause

a) he was getting beaten up by him
b) he said "can't wait to meet you Barry" when filming the moment Barry got hit by lightning. This makes me believe they've never met

Probably future Eddie or an ancestor.

Was a pretty good episode.

twist is that laurel goes under sex reassignment surgery in the future and becomes reverse flash. Now we have laurel as a reg on both shows. Network saves money and massive nerdrage brings free publicity.

This is kind of where I'm at.

What bugs me though is that we know Wells has possession of the yellow suit, which could be explained if Wells is working with a Reverse Flash. The big problem though is we saw him alter his voice, so I think this kind of confirms him as a speedster. Unless for some random reason he has a voice altering mechanism like Arrow

I could believe he is a speedster with no problem and he travelled back in time to the moment Barry's mum died from the future, for some reason, and so he was one of the two speedsters fighting in the room, but I think the ending was just a big misdirect.

Like, think it through, his plan would have been so dumb so far in the show.

What if Reverse Flash is something of a patchwork man with powers siphoned from the various metahumans being held at star labs and Wells was able to put all the powers together and infuse someone with the resulting combination.

Understand now?

Hey doc T. How do you decide between DC or Marvel as a newbie?

Both

read JLA/Avengers imo. It's very simple to get into despite the fact it features dozens of members of both factions

Yeah, kind of a Sylar or (movie version of) Deadpool.

So here's the deal.

Eddie the cop is an ancestor to Reverse-Flash. Hence the "Why didn't he kill me?" line at the end. If Reverse-Flash kills him he never gets born.

As per the comics, Reverse-Flash is a celebrity stalker from the future who goes back in time, eventually running completely off the rails and turning on Flash.

Wells and Flash fight. They go back in time to when Barry was a boy, Wells kills Flash's mom. As a result of the fight Wells is trapped in the past - either because his time travel device was destroyed in the fight (hence the need for the tachyon MacGuffin from tonight's episode) and/or because Wells has now changed the future - One where Flash may or may not exist depending on whether the timeline is back on track or not. (no idea what happens to Barry after this fight - his being dead too is a serious possibility).

This is paradox city which may mean Wells never exists if Flash never does. And possibly that the future doesn't exists as seen in the future newspapers because Flash is key to stopping something catastrophic.

So Wells assumes an existing identity, and has spent the last ~20 years ensuring that Flash will exist so as to return the timeline to the way it should be. Including creating/replicating the accident that gave Barry his powers in the first place.

(It could also be that the Barry of today will go back in time later in the season to try and prevent his mother's murder with unfortunate results).

I can work with ancestor, the why didnt he kill me line was something I hung up on as it is obviously there for a reason and not to make him think flash is a good guy, because if he gets in the loop he´d get all the heroinfo he needs to turn that thought anyway.

Unless he is the new Lana Lang, then no matter how many clues you get he will never realize anything.

If you have a Barnes and Noble in you area, go hang out and read some of the current comics plus the graphic novels BUT the writing and art are pretty much the same nowadays so the decision is going to come down to the characters.

This is what I mean when I say the level 1 theory that everyone is probably thinking of right now. It's a fun theory but I just really don't think it's going to be that simple. A lot of what you say probably is true in a way, i.e Eddie somehow connected to RF since he wasn't killed, but I think what will really happen will be tremendously different than this

the other thing I just realized is that Eddie being left untouched doesn't even lock him in as a version of RF. RF, if from the future, may just be a friend of Eddie, or maybe even a sibling. RF might have just left him alive for the sake of leaving him alive - not because he 'needs him alive to exist'

So this really doesn't even implicate Eddie at all

So you think a network tv show, on The CW no less, is going to get past level 1?

You're cute.

Time Travel + Comic Book

regardless of the network, it's basically permission to do w/e the **** they want, no matter how lolpossible it seems. I'm not saying I have a specific theory in mind, I'm saying of all theories that have been discussed, none have probably covered what will actually happen, and I'm excited to find out

I don't know about Arrow as I don't watch it but Flash has been pretty straight forward for the most part in their adapting the source material.

One big question is if

If by pretty straight forward you mean Barry Allen = The Flash then yes, you're correct

There's been like 10 episodes. They've introduced side characters whose names, yes, do match up with their comic book personas, but that is no reason to assume their plans for the Reverse Flash(es) will follow the same lines. If you watched Arrow you'd probably agree (see my above points wrt characters who do or do not become who they're destined to be in the comics)

[QUOTE=Doc T River;45504763]I don't know about Arrow as I don't watch it but Flash has been pretty straight forward for the most part in their adapting the source material.

If you enjoy flash even a little bit, you owe it to yourself to watch arrow.

I thought the Reverse Flash episode was good because of the visual and audio effects. Haven't watched much of this show so maybe I'm giving old news. Here's a possible clue to what is going on: Harrison Wells could be a reference the Sci Fi author H.G. Wells who wrote first popular time travel novel, Time Machine. So Flash's Wells has time traveled or he wants to time travel or both.

yea pretty much a given at this point