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04-04-2010 , 11:50 AM
Its such a big change they are calling this series one, lol.

New Showrunner and head writer, new Doctor and new Assistant.



Oh and we get a new Tardis and the sonic screwdriver is now green.

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So far im liking it. Smith appears to be doing an impression of Tennant at times, which btw HUGE shoes to fill given David was the best doctor ever, but he seems to be a solid actor and given time im sure ill come to accept him. I mean it took ages for me to like Tennant after Eccleston who i still think is a moron for refusing to do more than one season. As for Karen Gillan she manages to be really hot and seems to be a pretty solid actress from the little ive seen her in.

Dunno what it was but i expected to hate this SOOOO much, but the opening episode seemed to be really good. The major season story has already started (though i much prefer the Bad Wolf which was uber subtle in its introduction) and from the trailer at the end of the episode they seem to be ticking all the boxes with the historical figures, big space battles, Daleks and Cybermen. Obv id be watching anyway but i think they are onto a winner and the Matt Smith gamble seems to have paid off (though the bowtie sucks).

Ill miss aloons-y though
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04-05-2010 , 10:34 AM
Really enjoyed the first episode. I loved Tennant and his run, but this episode immediately reminded me why I always liked Steven Moffat's stories better than RTD's.

Matt Smith seemed fine, I'm sure he'll grow into the role over time. No objections, other than they should dump the "geronimo" catch phrase. New companion Amy/Amelia seemed very good as long as she doesn't turn into another companion who's in love with the Doctor.

Very excited for more of this season.
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04-05-2010 , 01:05 PM
Always tough to welcome a new doctor. Def agree with phill-- well done episode and promising season, but they beat us over the head with the cracks in the universe.

He really did seem to imitate the last doctor, but I suppose as an actor it's hard not to do since that's how you do your research.

Amelia's intro reminded me of the girl in the fireplace, which i thought was an amazing episode and very touching, but kind of weird to repeat.
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04-05-2010 , 01:48 PM
Never thought of it being like that ep. Nice catch.
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04-05-2010 , 03:26 PM
Bout time we got a DW thread.

Almost got sick during the eating scene.

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Its such a big change they are calling this series one, lol.

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So far im liking it. Smith appears to be doing an impression of Tennant at times, which btw HUGE shoes to fill given David was the best doctor ever, but he seems to be a solid actor and given time im sure ill come to accept him.

The major season story has already started (though i much prefer the Bad Wolf which was uber subtle in its introduction) and from the trailer at the end of the episode they seem to be ticking all the boxes with the historical figures, big space battles, Daleks and Cybermen. Obv id be watching anyway but i think they are onto a winner and the Matt Smith gamble seems to have paid off (though the bowtie sucks).

Ill miss allons-y though
1)I kind of felt this, but can't articulate the scenes where this is true
2)Series 3 was even more subtle with some major explanation to how things are going on in episodes that aren't part of the main arc (Gridlock/Human Nature/Family of Blood/Blink)
3)Bowties are cool
4)I was more of a fan of Fantastic myself, but I warmed up to Allons-y. (Can't really say I'm sorry anymore due to "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry" being engraved in my head)

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Matt Smith seemed fine, I'm sure he'll grow into the role over time. No objections, other than they should dump the "geronimo" catch phrase. New companion Amy/Amelia seemed very good as long as she doesn't turn into another companion who's in love with the Doctor.
He did say fantastic once, and it's not like every companion in the new series falls in love with him just Rose/Martha/Jack?.

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Amelia's intro reminded me of the girl in the fireplace, which i thought was an amazing episode and very touching, but kind of weird to repeat.
It was written by Moffet as well. (And as pointed out to me he also wrote Library/Forest. (RIVER Song/Amy POND))


tardis.wikia.com (Go here) and watch Tennant's new show if it gets picked up this fall.
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04-05-2010 , 03:32 PM
Just went to the Moffet page and saw he wrote "Blink" also-- During this season's montage did we see an image of one of those angel statues from that episode?

edit: Steven Moffat confirmed that the Angels will return in the episodes The Time of Angels and Flesh and Stone for 2010.

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04-05-2010 , 04:31 PM
Yeah, the weeping angels was the breakout bad guys of the Tennant reign. They were meant to be a one off but just score so well in polls they had to bring them back.

Not too sure what the River/Pond ref is you are trying to make but River is back later in the season (she was on the trailer, guess its sorta spoilerish but we have discussed other stuff and its the British way to be chill about this stuff ).

Amy falling in love with the Doctor (and visa versa) will be an interesting dynamic given she already has a fiance.

Btw since you mentioned them, Human Nature through to the season finale of season 3 was an amazing series of back to back episodes and is imo the peak of the series. I mean it had other great episodes at other times, arguably better ones such as the already mentioned The Girl in the Fireplace, but when the worst ep in a 6 back to back run is Utopia (which is largely just the opener for Sound of Drums) you know you are seeing something special.

Also since i vaguely mentioned something about Capt. Jack, im super excited about Torchwood getting another season. It is green lit and being made and will probably be out for a full run around Autumn. That show had its suck and was super cheesy at first but season 2 picked up the pace and the awesome Children of Earth just destroyed expectations. People who didnt even watch Sci Fi were watching that mini series and they doubled their audience with it (not inc what i assume was a huge rebroadcast number too through word of mouth publicising).
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04-05-2010 , 04:43 PM
I just meant they both have aquatic names, kind of like how RTD had a lot of people with the last name Smith or Jones.

Not as much of a fan of TW; it's way too dark compared to DW. Big fan of Barrowman though.

I've read recently there's going to be a new Torchwood made by Fox. I have no words.
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04-05-2010 , 05:00 PM
Torchwood was always the "adult" version of the family friendly DW (and there is the kids version with K9 and the old assistant which ive never seen outside of the crossover episodes). They did a really good job of creating three independent shows with their own canonical connection to each other within the same universe being made for three different audiences (but with venn diagram like crossover) and none of it feels forced.

Doctor Who has always had this weird way of being constantly popular, they just nailed the format from day one i guess. In fact it was cancelled whilst being one of the BBC's most popular shows only because the then Director General hated it and he wanted to free up the funds to make Eastenders.

Anyway, Torchwood US will blow if they make it. America has very rarely pulled off a remake of a British show, and for every Whose Line and Office there have been a whole series of terrible fails with Red Dwarf being an awesome example where they cast the Lister character as a guy who looked like Brad Pitt. Even when they have the original guys working on it they still regularly **** it up with Ultraviolet being an amazing example where the pilot was never shown to anyone and everyone involved hated what they had made (btw the orig is an amazing cult sci fi Vamp series which also has the main vamp from True Blood in it in his first vampire role, also staring Jack Davenport before he went to America and became a megarich film and TV star). I swear to god if i got three wishes tomorrow the first would be to get funding, rights and the creative skill to make an Ultraviolet film and spin it off into an awesome trilogy, the best approach to the vampire myth ever.
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04-06-2010 , 08:36 AM
I enjoyed the preview at the end more than the rest of the show, but as has been said the first episode does normally have a chaotic theme to it. Also as for him being Tennant like is that not always part of the intial change of Doctor as well with them still getting used to the new generation. I've liked him in other stuff and think he will relax into the role as time goes on, think it needed a relative unknown this time to follow Tennant. My daughter wasnt impressed but she is still gutted that Tennant left and didnt even want to watch the final episode with him in it.

Looking forward to Blink 2 and also the one that seemed to be WW2 in space with Daleks.

I dont think they are going to go with a love angle with the assistant think she is bit too intelligent and streetwise for him and just going off the previews maybe thinks he is a bit if a weird geek, but will see.
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04-06-2010 , 03:08 PM
Hah, reading about the blink episode on wikipedia they reference:

"The BBC Fear Forecasters (four children, aged 6, 8, 10 and 14, who rate each episode on how scary children will find it)"

I remember watching some episodes of Doctor Who growing up and being terrified of the Daleks. Easy voice for dads to imitate when chasing you up to bed.
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04-10-2010 , 07:55 PM
So which Doctor do you think banged Elizabeth I?

Not a bad ep all in all. If there was any real bad guy it would have been better, but yeah, not a bad standalone.

Next week, theyre camp, they exterminate, better watch your back! The Daleks return, and this time they have Churchill. Oh yes.
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04-10-2010 , 08:03 PM
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So which Doctor do you think banged Elizabeth I?

Not a bad ep all in all. If there was any real bad guy it would have been better, but yeah, not a bad standalone.

Next week, theyre camp, they exterminate, better watch your back! The Daleks return, and this time they have Churchill. Oh yes.
According to the opening of The End of Time, Tenth.

Wasn't bad episode, not great though. Never seen a new series episode I didn't like though.

Not the Daleks, can't we just have a season without Daleks? They appeared in almost as many episode in the new series as they did in the original 26 seasons.
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04-10-2010 , 08:26 PM
Musta missed that bit.

The thing with the Daleks is i cant think of a terrible Dalek story. The one with the Empire State Building wasnt great, but not terrible.

It would be so much better if they didnt wipe them out of existence every single time they meet.

1, Doctor goes to somewhere on Earth
2, Doctor finds something bad
3, Doctor finds out Daleks did it
4, Doctor meets Daleks and some kind of "we found a way to survive" conversation happens
5 Doctors beats Daleks and in doing so kills the last Dalek
6, Go to 1

But yeah, im totally with the sentiment that there are new enemies out there to be made that they dont need to keep going back to that old faithful of enemy. Same goes for Cybermen who are back this season too. The Cybermen are usually cooler than the Daleks, there is something more "evil" about roboticizing a person over just killing them.
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04-10-2010 , 08:30 PM
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It would be so much better if they didnt wipe them out of existence every single time they meet.
Since the Ninth; we went from 1 to 0 (Dalek) to millions to zero(Series 1 finale) then we went to 4 to millions to 4 (Series 2 finale) from 4 to 1 (Series 3) to millions to zero (Journey's End) and now we're at ??? to ??? (next week) The Cybus Cybermen at least had from the end of Series 2 to the last X-mas special. (And they'll be back too)

There have been I think zero new species on the show (unless you count Slitheen and Angels which is a somewhat stretch since they each had 2-3 episodes IIRC)
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04-17-2010 , 04:14 PM
If there was a worse Doctor Who made (of the new series) i cant think of it right now.

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The thing with the Daleks is i cant think of a terrible Dalek story.
And thus 1 week later im proved wrong, lol.

Next week should be great though with the return of River and the Weeping Angels.
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04-17-2010 , 09:06 PM
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If there was a worse Doctor Who made (of the new series) i cant think of it right now.
"Love & Monsters" and "Fear Her" bit pretty hard, but this might be the worst. Not enough Churchill, and the episode felt really short. ("We're not Daleks....psyche we're Daleks! And we're strong again...bye!")
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04-17-2010 , 09:42 PM
"make bomb go boom"
"hate"
fail
"love"
"im in love"
win
"oh no, bomb no go boom, time jump, wheeeee"

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04-18-2010 , 09:07 AM
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If there was a worse Doctor Who made (of the new series) i cant think of it right now.
+1

And the Weeping angels is one of my favorite adversaries.

Creepy tbh
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04-19-2010 , 08:27 AM
Wasnt great, didnt think episode 2 was that good either, they also seem to be hitting us over the head with the time rift or whatever that white thing is at the end of each episode.

Next weeks should be good and I have already got my weeping angel style figures in hoping its a hot line on my market stall on Sunday.
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04-19-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Wasnt great, didnt think episode 2 was that good either, they also seem to be hitting us over the head with the time rift or whatever that white thing is at the end of each episode.
I thought Beast Below wasn't bad, just wasn't great. Yeah, the arc is a little more obvious then Bad Wolf/Torchwood/Saxon.

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Next weeks should be good and I have already got my weeping angel style figures in hoping its a hot line on my market stall on Sunday.
Are you currently looking at them?
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04-19-2010 , 01:00 PM
i watched some doctor who confidential for the first time, really didn't like it. having the actor saying he's giddy about getting to be the doctor really detracted from the aura of mystery about the character.

amy pond hot though imo.
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04-19-2010 , 03:09 PM
All three of this season have been on the lower part of the DW quality bell curve. Other than the last one with the Darleks i havent thought it was terrible and they are still very much finding their rhythm with an entirely new cast and showrunner so im hopeful of them really turning it around.

The next ep should be epic though and hopefully this is the turning point. Huge group of statues, one is a killer alien, you cant blink. Awesome.
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04-19-2010 , 03:18 PM
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i watched some doctor who confidential for the first time, really didn't like it. having the actor saying he's giddy about getting to be the doctor really detracted from the aura of mystery about the character.

amy pond hot though imo.
Only saw 1 confidential (Turn Left), interesting if just to learn Tate can't drive.

Totally agree, she's the best looking companion and she has had some pretty good lines. ("Nope", "I'M A KISSAGRAM" (I love how taking of her hat to show her looks is apparently proof she's not a cop), "Now that you've stopped torturing the pilot...", "Ooh, there's a her." "Oi! Churchill! TARDIS Key.""Dalek tech a bit slow on the uptake"))

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All three of this season have been on the lower part of the DW quality bell curve. Other than the last one with the Darleks i havent thought it was terrible and they are still very much finding their rhythm with an entirely new cast and showrunner so im hopeful of them really turning it around.

The next ep should be epic though and hopefully this is the turning point. Huge group of statues, one is a killer alien, you cant blink. Awesome.
I think 11thD was pretty good and Beast Below was okay but bad for a DW. And we're not talking about VftD

Couldn't you just shoot them though?
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04-19-2010 , 03:27 PM
Just read its a two parter. All the eggs in this basket, if they cant get this right they wont get anything right.

As for shooting them, we will probably find out either way on the next eps just how vulnerable they are. It is worth pointing out most people blink when they fire a gun though
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