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05-05-2010 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cres
Its not really that risky, they actually train for it. If another boat goes down, the closest vessel will steam towards the scene to conduct a rescue. That usually involves men in the water who need to be brought on board. The crane with a lifting bag is the same a chopper.
This is most ******ed thing I have heard.
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05-05-2010 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cres
Its not really that risky, they actually train for it. If another boat goes down, the closest vessel will steam towards the scene to conduct a rescue. That usually involves men in the water who need to be brought on board. The crane with a lifting bag is the same a chopper.
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05-05-2010 , 09:05 AM
Seriously, why would they even attempt that transfer rather than just wait until they were back onshore? I'm sure they probably played up the drama for tv with some of the editing there, but it still seems very risky. I mean someone could've been killed, and for what? I'd hate to think that creating some excitement for a tv show played any role in that decision.

Also loved how Jonathan called out Keith for all his bull****.
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05-05-2010 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by slicknickles
This is most ******ed thing I have heard.
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
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You really think they just decided, let's give it a shot? Never tried it before, have no idea whether it could work, so let's take the 2 guys who are like family and throw them in the Bering Sea. Talk about really stupid posts by you guys.
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05-05-2010 , 12:20 PM
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"Practice, practice, practice getting in that suit," the fisherman said.

"Practice ahead of time for an emergency because you don't know — you don't know when it's going to happen…. When people say these practice drills are silly? They're not silly."
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundlan...escue-504.html
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05-05-2010 , 12:25 PM
Gonna be interesting to see if Jake is still on the boat when Phil has his stroke. If he's on some other boat when it happens he'll never live it down.
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05-05-2010 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
You really think they just decided, let's give it a shot? Never tried it before, have no idea whether it could work, so let's take the 2 guys who are like family and throw them in the Bering Sea. Talk about really stupid posts by you guys.
When did I say that? Yes, our posts were dumb. You win.
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05-05-2010 , 01:29 PM
Right up until the moment the first dude was in the water I was convinced everyone was just playing a prank on the greenhorns.
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05-05-2010 , 06:19 PM
Really? You quoted this as proof? Did you even read the article?

They practice putting on the survival suits. The article says nothing about jumping into the sea hundreds of miles from port in 10 foot seas as a practice run for safety training.

I grant that there were probably two trailing vessels for camera shots nearby that weren't shown, so the risk was probably mitigated somewhat. But there's no way this was done for any reason but to appease the TV folk.
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05-05-2010 , 06:53 PM
Logistically I don't think they can go back to port and drop one off and/or wait for the other boat to show up to pick them up. Neither seemed out of sort doing the switch and it seemed like something thats been done a bunch of times before. MASSIVE LOL if you think they did that for the cameras, are you ****ing kidding me?????!?!?!?
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05-05-2010 , 07:25 PM
I read it. The story was about a crew who's boat caught fire, they explain a reason they survived were the drills PRACTICED
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Five fishermen who escaped from a burning fishing boat northeast of St. John's early Tuesday credited safety training for saving their lives.
The BC Ferry Corporation routinely drills with deploying rafts and chutes while tied up at dock. Then all the equipment used gets sent back for repair and re-certification. Should they wait until an actual emergency occurs before testing the equipment and personnel. They sure can't do it in the middle of a crossing, travelers would rip them to shreds for the delay.

On the show did they do it for the cameras, maybe, maybe not. Sig is the type to not want to waste fuel or time to return to port. So who really knows. My point was they wouldn't have done the deed if they didn't believe 100% they could accomplish the task.

As for if its ever been done before
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About four minutes after he hit the 36-degree water, White was pulled aboard the Time Bandit, but the danger of hypothermia wasn’t over until he was out of his wet gear, wrapped in a dry blanket and led to the warm galley, where he collapsed, totally spent.

Johnathan Hillstrand, 44, came down from the pilothouse, his own legs shaking beneath him as he embraced White, whom he’d never met. “Last time that happened,” he told White, “we pulled a dead guy out of the water.”
this article talks about 2 men pulled on board, 1 alive, the other not.
http://www.deadliestcatchtv.com/news...nd-josh-white/
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05-05-2010 , 08:57 PM
omg the switch in the water was the craziest thing ever
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05-05-2010 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
Logistically I don't think they can go back to port and drop one off and/or wait for the other boat to show up to pick them up. Neither seemed out of sort doing the switch and it seemed like something thats been done a bunch of times before. MASSIVE LOL if you think they did that for the cameras, are you ****ing kidding me?????!?!?!
I agree. Matt Bradley said something like "Man, I would not want to be the guy that had to go in the water.". Obviously this is something that is practiced. Sig thought Phil having a guy tethered to a bouy was a great idea.

You guys are forgetting something. You can't count on the Coast Guard to rescue you. It can take 1 or 2 hours to get a chopper to the boat. You literally are on an island out there. It makes perfect sense that boat crews practice these type of rescues.
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05-05-2010 , 11:10 PM
I have no doubt that they practice it or at least have a very good idea of what they're doing. They're obviously not just throwing someone in the water and hoping for the best. But at the same time, no one can say that there's zero risk involved in that kind of thing. If the logistics wouldn't work for them to switch when they're back on shore, then maybe they shouldn't have done the whole stupid trade thing in the first place. Isn't making sure everyone comes home alive more important than teaching the Jakes a lesson or whatever the whole point of it was? Maybe it's just the editing of the show that's exaggerating the risk and creating drama over a perfectly safe routine activity, but to an uneducated viewer like myself, it just seems incredibly dumb. It's exciting tv though!
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05-06-2010 , 12:06 AM
To see the event through anyone other than their eyes is impossible. The hook for the show is the world most deadliest job, your concept of safe is not the same as theirs.
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05-06-2010 , 09:56 AM
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I have no doubt that they practice it or at least have a very good idea of what they're doing. They're obviously not just throwing someone in the water and hoping for the best. But at the same time, no one can say that there's zero risk involved in that kind of thing. If the logistics wouldn't work for them to switch when they're back on shore, then maybe they shouldn't have done the whole stupid trade thing in the first place. Isn't making sure everyone comes home alive more important than teaching the Jakes a lesson or whatever the whole point of it was? Maybe it's just the editing of the show that's exaggerating the risk and creating drama over a perfectly safe routine activity, but to an uneducated viewer like myself, it just seems incredibly dumb. It's exciting tv though!
Cres never said there was zero risk. All he said was that Its not really that risky, they actually train for it.

This is why I hate 2+2. It was completely obvious what he meant, but 2 or 3 people called him out on it because they are uber-nits. Had he said "Although there's some risk to it, they actually train for it." it would have been OK. But nooo... he's a ******.

Can we all just get back on topic and agree this is an awesome show and they do crazy ass **** because they are in the Bering Sea?
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05-06-2010 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ungoliant
I have no doubt that they practice it or at least have a very good idea of what they're doing. They're obviously not just throwing someone in the water and hoping for the best. But at the same time, no one can say that there's zero risk involved in that kind of thing. If the logistics wouldn't work for them to switch when they're back on shore, then maybe they shouldn't have done the whole stupid trade thing in the first place. Isn't making sure everyone comes home alive more important than teaching the Jakes a lesson or whatever the whole point of it was? Maybe it's just the editing of the show that's exaggerating the risk and creating drama over a perfectly safe routine activity, but to an uneducated viewer like myself, it just seems incredibly dumb. It's exciting tv though!
brah, these guys fish in the Bering sea during the winter with huge waves crashing over the bow and in incredibly rough sea. Literally at any moment something bad can happen to them. EVERYTHING they do, just to fish, is basically risky and dangerous.
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05-06-2010 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
Cres never said there was zero risk. All he said was that Its not really that risky, they actually train for it.

This is why I hate 2+2. It was completely obvious what he meant, but 2 or 3 people called him out on it because they are uber-nits. Had he said "Although there's some risk to it, they actually train for it." it would have been OK. But nooo... he's a ******.

Can we all just get back on topic and agree this is an awesome show and they do crazy ass **** because they are in the Bering Sea?
Not sure why this is being directed at me. I wasn't even replying to cres specifically, and I never called anyone out for anything. Just giving my random thoughts as I watched the show...
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05-06-2010 , 11:05 PM
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Not sure why this is being directed at me. I wasn't even replying to cres specifically, and I never called anyone out for anything. Just giving my random thoughts as I watched the show...
No it was directed at the posters who basically called Cres an idiot for suggesting that this is something that they train for.
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05-07-2010 , 08:05 AM
I wasn't implying he was an idiot for suggesting it was something they train for, I was referring to him saying it's not really that risky just because of said training. That is all.
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05-07-2010 , 09:52 AM
Everything is relative. A fireman doesn't see the same risk in walking into a burning house as a civilian. Prep and equipment aside, the mindset is different.
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Bud: Tense situations, kid. You get into five or six of 'em a day, it don't mean **** anymore. I mean, I've seen men stabbed, didn't mean **** to me. I've seen guns, guns too, they don't mean ****. But that's when you gotta watch yourself.

Bud: A repo man spends his life getting into tense situations.

Miller: The life of a repo man is always intense.
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05-08-2010 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cres
You really think they just decided, let's give it a shot? Never tried it before, have no idea whether it could work, so let's take the 2 guys who are like family and throw them in the Bering Sea. Talk about really stupid posts by you guys.
I apologize for my post Cres. Your original post was correct there isnt a lot of risk involved in what they were doing. Not because they do this regularly or because they train for it, but because it was staged and the Coast Guard or other smaller boats were just out of view. This is in no way something they do on a regular basis. There is no way guys would do that. Yes they have extremely dangerous jobs but they respect the sea. They stage other scenes on the show all the time and I know this for a fact.
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05-12-2010 , 10:08 AM
A lot of foreshadowing in this episode w/ Phil talking about how he might not be around much longer. His son Jake seems like a dick. I can see why he gets on everyone's nerves.

Next week's episode looks awesome w/ Jonathon screaming about the rogue wave coming and you see it approaching the boat.
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05-12-2010 , 11:12 AM
I am really not enjoying following the Kodiak. Just a depressing boat.

The Northwestern being basically in the middle of no where fishing Blue King Crab was/is pretty cool for some reason. I like that we get to see something that hasn't been fished for 12 years.

Agree with you Matt about Cpt Phil. Really not looking forward to seeing the episode in which he dies (or the one following it). Even though he argues with his sons, you can tell they all love each other a lot and are really close.
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05-12-2010 , 11:37 AM
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I am really not enjoying following the Kodiak. Just a depressing boat.

The Northwestern being basically in the middle of no where fishing Blue King Crab was/is pretty cool for some reason. I like that we get to see something that hasn't been fished for 12 years.

Agree with you Matt about Cpt Phil. Really not looking forward to seeing the episode in which he dies (or the one following it). Even though he argues with his sons, you can tell they all love each other a lot and are really close.
Yea I hate the Kodiak too. Imagine having to be the cameraman stuck on that boat for weeks and seeing all these screw ups. I'm guessing the Discovery Channel wants to show how hard it is to catch these crabs.

I think they said the blue crabs could bring an extra $200,000 for Sig's boat. Pretty crazy that most of the crew didn't think it's worth it. Even after fuel and bills, it's got to be a few grand each. Sig is right, they will thank him after. For some reason I hate Matt Bradley. He seems like a dick. He's whining that a cook will make more than he does. Yea, somehow I doubt that.
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