I have a soft spot for Lou, Hulk was probably my favorite show when I was a little kid. I think he's doing good with what he's got (low IQ).

It was funny when Debbie Gibson was like "I mean if you want me to be a model I can..." and Miss Universe was like "Nahhh, I'm worried about your age." LOL.

Aubrey gets props for at least realizing (though too late) that they couldn't see the models' shoes. That ended up being one of Ivanka's big complaints at the end.

Didn't look to me like either team had much to work with. I mean, I'm no fashion expert, but Ivanka's clothing line looks pretty drab to me. Good thing she has the Trump name and this show to promote the crap out of it.

ya that thought crossed my mind too

also had to lol when the first thing the women notice is why is CLAY AIKEN THE BOSS to 3 women

really doesn't look like there's gonna be much drama this season. maybe when they split up teams.
not too many diva personalities.

also was glad corolla was back

It was pretty rude of them to consider that in this day and age a MAN can't bust through the glass ceiling and rise to become a supervisor to 3 women.

Aubrey is really interesting in that she basically acts as project manager every time, but hasn't volunteered for PM. Probably smart on her part. She really annoys me and thinks she is smarter than she really is and just seems really insecure. Compare that to Penn, who pretty much has had the best idea in each of the first three tasks (and their name), but does it quietly and respectfully without being insecure about it.

Interesting conclusion to draw at this point. I haven't picked up on either of these sentiments.

I don't know what her IQ is but she seems smart enough. And her core skillset falls in line with doing well in these tasks. It's not all about IQ. Isn't Tia Carrerre a Mensa member? I'd rather have Aubrey on my team than Tia..

She's quick-thinking.
She's creative (in a good way).
She seems to instill confidence in her teammates and PMs.
And people don't seem to hate her (huge).

She's made her PM look better than they would have so far in the first 3 tasks. When she talks the ladies seem to slowly nod and be like "yep, yep, sounds good". Do you know how difficult it is to get a small group of people (especially women) to just agree to an idea without much fight? That's really hard and a really rare skill. She seems pretty secure and forget about her IQ (which I'm sure is above 100 anyway).

Which guy pointed it out last week when she was in the board room, something about being uncomfortable around Dayana for not being the prettiest girl there or something. I feel like she has something to prove and goes out of her way to prove it. She needs validation.

I think she is quite full of herself and thinks she is more famous/smart/pretty than she really is. Her twitter comment pretty much is the epitome of that.

Also LOL'd at Debbie Gibson for being old and irrelevant.

Given that, she's still one of the better players on her team. I'd prefer Lisa, Patricia for sure. Tia might be better, who knows, she doesn't step up (but that's not a bad thing, not everyone should step up or chaos would ensue). She's more annoying than a bad teammate. I expect her to go far, but she needs to just actually lead. I dislike that she overshadows her PM so much, but sometimes that's needed (like the last task for the men).

Clay Aiken, a gay man, said that Dee Snider looked better than some girls on the other team and posited that Aubrey is insecure around Miss Universe.

However, I haven't seen any of that. She didn't look insecure when she was sharing a live fashion window with Miss Universe. Me thinks Clay Aiken was being catty.

Also did anyone else notice how Clay melted in the presence of Eric Trump? That was hilarious. I don't have strong gaydar but I'm pretty sure that was happening.

This.
But it took me only until they announced the task. Right then I knew that the men would set up George for the inevitable fail. They were practically forcing him to take the PM role

It's funny .. from the start I thought the men would lose for sure but I actually liked their concept and presentation the best. I don't get how the women have won this task..

So far this season is a bit boring ... it probably needs another 3-5 episodes until the boring / annoying people are gone. Lou is such a waste of screentime and tilts the hell out of me - but he seems to be on a Garey Busey type of edit, so maybe he will stick around.

I also hate the fact that Dee broke his finger. He was def one of the few more interesting people this season. But it's only a matter of time until they get rid of him because he can only use one hand...

Keep in mind that what I'm about to say is coming from someone with next to no fashion sense at all. Jeans, t-shirts, basketball shorts, sweat pants...this is my world...

I agree with most of what you are saying about the women-fail, however, I think the men executed their superior concept really poorly. The 'desk' looked like a folding card table at a glance...I'm sure it was probably better than that, but it was the impression I got. If the men's claim of attempting to put Clay in a subservient role was the truth...also massive fail. (Unless the $#!%y card table desk was meant to emasculate him.) Also, their office must have been having a 'day at the beach' theme that day based on the flip flops and spring frolic outfit that the one girl had on. Really powerful office set-up they had there. Some guy at a crummy desk being served by three chicks who wandered in off the street. Nice.

They should have had some piece or two of high end office furniture, with a few women and clay dressed more powerfully. One of the women giving what appeared to be a presentation to the rest of the group. If they had the time and resources, I'd have had the back drop painted (or some sort of banner pasted to it) to look as if you were high up in an office building with a view of the city out the window.

And then there was the train wreck that was the red carpet display. Terrible. Again, I feel the back drop was very underutilized. Make a night scene on it. Some moon and stars or some city view at night. (Who thought that glass sign was going to show up and look good with that dark background behind it? Or Arsenio, for that matter?) And the clothes! my heavens, the clothes for the red carpet were more suited to the business scene. Does Ivanka not make any sexy dresses? Terrible.

I thought the men had a nice concept which they completely and utterly did not execute. I thought the women did not have a good concept and I agree their display looked amateurish. Dayana looked really pretty...natch, and the color popped in the second window (they should have put some matching shoes on display with the bags since the sign blocked the shoes on the model's feet.)

I thought both teams did pretty poorly. I felt badly for Ivanka having to pretend that either team did a good job.

Only stand outs were Paul's signs one of which you couldn't really see.

No way they don't **** up the office window paintjob. They can't be that ambitious.

Yeah I don't know how they didn't put like at least 6-10 white dots somewhere on the backdrop to simulate stars (while not being cheesy). They can't really **** that up. Moon probably too much.

I don't know why they went with "movie premiere" anyway. They should have kept it simple and just done an understated cocktail party scene and let the clothes be the main focus. Those are way more common night events for a big city working girl than a movie premiere. I thought that was cheesy.

A better response would have been that it looks like the 'business women' in your picture just came from a picnic. But yeah, the vomit thing was probably more classy

I don't know what was more offensive the idea that 40+ year olds can't be in the window display because of their age, or the idea that bozo the clown is better looking than anyone other than Lisa. I'd think Carrerre 45 and Velasquez 41 at minimum have a claim to be a little offended here. And Deb 41 probably would have looked nice in a power suit in the men's office display.

Dee might be a little better looking than some of the girls on the other team.

I think Aubrey has been a pretty good player so far. I think she's an asset. However, the 'picture makes me want to vomit' crack was kind of high school...maybe even Jr. High.

I definitely thought Clay was digging Eric.

ya I thought the finals might be Dee and Penn til Dee broke his finger

They don't have to paint it themselves. Have a banner made from a photo. Hire someone to come paint. Cheap bastards.

I said this exact thing to my wife, how do you not put some ****ing stars and a city background on that?

They said they were trying to go with the younger demo with Red. As opposed to the "more suitable, older demo" with several of the other options.

I just think it was funny that Debbie threw her name out there like it was meant to happen or something. I think they wanted to tell her "you have a huge nose" but instead went with "we're going with the younger demo". Tia and Velaz seemed like they approved, which I thought was surprising. Velazquez has said on two episodes now that she was the "first Latina supermodel" (LOL).

Carolla made me LOL when he said "as the 2nd Latino supermodel, I thought..."

You have strange taste.

Dayana's age comment was pretty brutal, and funny.

Every time Aubrey speaks I am surprised she is so well-spoken. I keep expecting her to sound like a dumb teenager.

Carolla sure brings the LOL's...surprised that Lisa can't pop off anything humorous, but maybe she has zero improvisational skills. If Carolla leaves I may have to bail on the show.

This show would be unwatchable without dvr and even then barely watchable. I can usually get through a 2 hour episode in less than 15 minutes. Carolla, Takei, and Arsenio and the very end when somebody gets kicked off are the only good parts.

aubrey is def. the 5th best looking at best.

Well, I happen to be a female who is into men, so it's kinda slim pickens for me this season. Adam is really funny is about all the men have going for them in the attractiveness department. (Many seem like great guys, just not that appealing to look at. When Dee is a front runner on the men's side, that not a great thing.)

If Aubrey had a personality transplant and a normal color of hair, I'd cut her some more slack. (Even with the clown-do, she's way better looking than me. I think I could take Lampanelli though.) I just think Debbie and Aubrey are more similar in their over-inflated opinions of themselves than some of us may be giving them credit for.

Am I wrong in saying that Dayana is the best looking person on this cast by a long shot?

Definitely not wrong. Patricia is probably 2nd, and after her, I have no idea. I guess it's Aubrey O'Who?. Lampanelli even has a few of them beat (Gotti, and maybe NJ Housewife who has been under the knife too much). Probably Cheryl Tiegs is 3rd behind Patricia, which is pretty sad with her being so damn old.

good enough for me. wanna hook up?

Uhhhhhh, how is this a question? Of course she is.

If anything I'd say Velazquez is the insecure one. She's mentioned twice now that she was the first Latina supermodel (what?) and this episode she was saying she thinks of Dayana like a little sister. I think it is eating her up being around Dayana.

Dayana is two tiers better looking than anyone on either team.