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07-23-2012 , 03:28 PM
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07-23-2012 , 03:36 PM
Anyone else laughed at the apart where Walter put out his hand for Mike to shake it ?
07-23-2012 , 03:36 PM
Loved the episode. I didn't actually think the Jesse crying scene was all that great, but Mike crushed it and the ending was very well-done.

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Originally Posted by Jake7777
what about the phenylaskylar acid?
A+
07-23-2012 , 03:39 PM
So we can certainly add rape to Walt's list of reasons to hate him, right?
07-23-2012 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
and in case it isn't clear:

Mike only spares Lydia because he knows Walt and Jesse need the methyl. And he's only reconsidering because his money has been seized by the Feds. He has no choice. But yeah, it's going to bite him the ass.
LOLno. Did you even watch the episode? Severe viewing logic fail, your sentence is to skip the next episode.


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Originally Posted by TimM
They should have established how Mike knew they were having trouble getting methylamine.
They did that during the kitchen table scene. People who are whining that it wasn't specifically spelled out should not be allowed to watch this show. Walt told Slimfast about the lasagna he made, but you didn't actually see him make it. Should they have established that he made it by showing him and Walt Jr chowing down? There is only an hour of show, Gilligan cannot hold your hand through everything, you need to apply some thought of your own.


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Originally Posted by TimM
There are several precursors. Only Saul, Walt, and Jesse were in the meeting where they specifically talked about Methylamine IIRC.
Nit fail for you. You do get a supernit award for the "where they specifically talked about" garbage, though. Do you think Walt lied about the lasagna since you didn't specifically see him make it? I know that nits are gonna nit, but come on. Your sentence is to skip the next episode.


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Originally Posted by Dominic
In that last scene, did anyone else feel a veiled sense of menace from Walt? Almost like he was warning Skylar?
Sentence revised, now you have to skip the next two episodes.


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Originally Posted by imjoshsizemore
Opening thoughts:

- Excellent performance from Aaron Paul. For the first 15 seconds of him crying I thought he had finally thought a step ahead of Walt and lied about not checking the Roomba for 1 week.

- Mike took a half measure =\
Good points, both. Great alternate perspective on Jesse's crying.


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Originally Posted by CaliBobby
they made it very obvious that Mike is gonna have to kill everyone besides Lydia.
Yes, the speech about how they were all his guys and he handpicked them certainly cements this theory. wtf. You are sentenced to skipping the next episode as well.



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Originally Posted by TJay
When Walt, Jesse and Saul are having their meeting, Walt says "If Gus can manage it so can we."

Next word out of Walt's mouth: "Precurser"

One of the definitions of a precurser is "a person, animal, or thing that goes before and indicates the approach of someone or something else".

This is probably confirmation that Walt and Jesse (and probably Saul because he was in the conversation too) die.

There has been some severe fail in this thread, but this is definitely a contender for the throne itself. Join Dominic in the skip-the-next-two-episodes sentencing chamber for your severe logic fail.



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Originally Posted by SBlum2711
The gripe I have and obviously the show would've taken a much different route if it happened but I feel like Hank should definitely have discovered Walt by now. the guy is supposed to be a top DEA agent, he figures out a philanthropist who owns chicken restaurants is involved but cant figure out that a family member who has paid thousands in bills for him? Along with all the other subtle clues and hints, he should've at least aroused some suspicion by now. Only thing I can think of is that maybe Hank has none this entire time and has kept it a secret to protect Walt.


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maybe Hank has none this entire time and has kept it a secret to protect Walt.

Take the rest of the season off.



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Originally Posted by Chrizza
Eat your ****ing cornflakes, Walt Jr.
Now we're talking.




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07-23-2012 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Mike only spares Lydia because he knows Walt and Jesse need the methyl.
Mike was just looking for an excuse.
07-23-2012 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
So we can certainly add rape to Walt's list of reasons to hate him, right?
Yeah, but the fact that it was implied and that we never bore witness to any active resistance makes it difficult to put a bunch of vitriol behind it.

I'm glad they did it as they did though. Going the "subtly creepy as ****" route with it was the better artistic choice.
07-23-2012 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Juts came here to post this. Mike leaving a half measure is going to bite him big at some point
Definitely.


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Originally Posted by master3004
Saul has to make it out alive, hes the only one with any morals.



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Originally Posted by DOOM@ALL_CAPS
Also, Lydia plus Walt seems like a reckless combination. Doesn't Lydia know that by killing all those people it will only make everyone more suspicious and increase scrutiny?
The diner scene between Mike and Lydia pretty much confirmed that Lydia was acting out of pure panic at that point, so it might be wise to not consider her choice to write up that list as fully rational.




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Originally Posted by nath
god damn it i made it through six seasons of the Shield in the last couple of months without seeing any spoilers and someone finally ****ed up the final season for me itt, thanks a lot
What's the etiquette on spoilers for a show that has ended? Absolutely sucks to get spoiled, I know, but it has been almost four years since the show ended. That seems reasonable, even for something of superior quality like The Shield.


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Originally Posted by Paasei
Anyone else laughed at the apart where Walter put out his hand for Mike to shake it ?
That scene was very well done. Mike's hesitation, Jesse looking at Mike, Mike looking at Jesse, then Mike finally getting up and shaking Walt's hand. This scene is definitely worth a rewatch, if only to appreciate the interaction between Jesse and Mike while Walt has his hand extended.
07-23-2012 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Also, would the DEA / the U.S. really have jurisdiction over offshore accounts? How does that work? I thought that was the whole reason to have offshore accounts.
Really? Is this a level? After everything the online poker community has been through?
07-23-2012 , 04:14 PM
I'm amazed he didn't whack Lydia earlier, it was obvious she was the weakest link of all.

Not sure I consider leaving her alive a half measure. She's a necessary part for his survival right now. She is needed.
07-23-2012 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
What's the etiquette on spoilers for a show that has ended? Absolutely sucks to get spoiled, I know, but it has been almost four years since the show ended. That seems reasonable, even for something of superior quality like The Shield.
I can understand why someone wouldn't put that in spoilers at this point in time. I don't understand why someone felt the need to unnecessarily divulge that information in the first place, when his point could have easily been made without it.

Like "This reminds me of the final season of The Shield" makes his point just as well without adding "when xxxxx happens".
07-23-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
I'm amazed he didn't whack Lydia earlier, it was obvious she was the weakest link of all.
This. He should have known to whack her right after her panic display in the diner. No way she doesn't squeal if she thinks she can get away safe as a result.

07-23-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick






Are you saying you disagree?

He has morals, they may be completely ****ed up morals, but he has them, and he sticks with them.
07-23-2012 , 04:27 PM
07-23-2012 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Are you saying you disagree?

He has morals, they may be completely ****ed up morals, but he has them, and he sticks with them.
Walt disagreed, not me.

Looking forward to your thesis.

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07-23-2012 , 04:29 PM
For those of you saying it is evident that Mike has to go whack the remaining 11 names on Lydia's list:

Spoiler:
The upcoming promos and inside videos make it clear that one of Mike's motives for going back to work with Walt is to be able to pay his guys some of the money the DEA plans on confiscating from all of them in order to keep them happy and silent.

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07-23-2012 , 04:43 PM
I saw a thread on Reddit earlier where they were discussing wether Saul saying at some point to Walt "please don't hang yourself in your closet." means wether that is how Walt is going to die, and then people started complaining about spoilers. The idiots are deff getting into this show now.

Anyway, what I am curious about is
-Will all the Madrigal mess have an impact on Walt and Jesse? A lot of people laughed last season when I suggested last season that Gus might not be the sole boss-guy in the operation, but we deff know now that he wasn't, the guy that commited suicide probably knew who Walt and Jesse were, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people know it.

-there's 11 people on Lydia's list. How many do we know? She mentioned it were 11 men, the 2 guys that got killed, "Dennis" from the laundry, and she mentioned she never met "his chemist". I don't think all 11 will become relevant but we will deff meet more.

-The other guy that got killed seemed like an assasin. Do we know him? This seems to indicate there was more security in the operation other than Mike and his partners, which is kinda weird given how Gus was basicly at war during S4 and we never met him.
07-23-2012 , 04:44 PM
This conversation about Saul and his morals is awesome and I love it. That is not sarcasm. I'm pretty sure I agree with master3004 but I'm still thinking about it.
07-23-2012 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
-The other guy that got killed seemed like an assasin. Do we know him? This seems to indicate there was more security in the operation other than Mike and his partners, which is kinda weird given how Gus was basicly at war during S4 and we never met him.
He was one of Mike's operatives / henchmen. He turned on Mike because he needed the money.
07-23-2012 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
I saw a thread on Reddit earlier where they were discussing wether Saul saying at some point to Walt "please don't hang yourself in your closet." means wether that is how Walt is going to die, and then people started complaining about spoilers. The idiots are deff getting into this show now.

Anyway, what I am curious about is
-Will all the Madrigal mess have an impact on Walt and Jesse? A lot of people laughed last season when I suggested last season that Gus might not be the sole boss-guy in the operation, but we deff know now that he wasn't, the guy that commited suicide probably knew who Walt and Jesse were, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people know it.

-there's 11 people on Lydia's list. How many do we know? She mentioned it were 11 men, the 2 guys that got killed, "Dennis" from the laundry, and she mentioned she never met "his chemist". I don't think all 11 will become relevant but we will deff meet more.

-The other guy that got killed seemed like an assasin. Do we know him? This seems to indicate there was more security in the operation other than Mike and his partners, which is kinda weird given how Gus was basicly at war during S4 and we never met him.
Are you sure we never met him? I was thinking he might be a "Henchman #3" type character from a previous episode. Mike definitely knew him, and talked to him in that weary, disappointed voice. I felt like he was one of Mike's guys and that he turned on him.
07-23-2012 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TimM
They should have established how Mike knew they were having trouble getting methylamine.
Methylamine was the only precursor that was difficult to acquire back in season 1 when Walt and Jesse switched to the new cooking method. I don't see why that should have changed. Mike would almost certainly know which of the precursors were difficult to acquire, in any event.
07-23-2012 , 05:07 PM
i always believed that Saul had the stronger moral code than most people on the show (including Hank!). Yes his practices are shady and he does it mostly for the $, but i feel like he is a firm believer that everyone (including criminals) deserves a strong defense.

i'm also under the impression that Mike not killing the mom was actually not a half measure. might have to watch the scene again, but i don't think he was going in with the intention to kill her. when he said "she's not going to find you", he probably meant that he wasn't going to kill her and therefore her daughter wouldn't need to find her and not "i'm going to bury you in the desert". could be wrong though.
07-23-2012 , 05:11 PM
I mean let's not overstate the strength of Saul's moral code. He's now doing work against his own will. Yes it's being done under sufficient duress, but it's not as though there aren't alternatives.
07-23-2012 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DukeSucks
Such a good episode. Loved the scene where Jesse broke down. Those nuggets looked really delicious too.
Weren't they Tater Tots? I first thought they were nuggets, but then when he started to just run through them it looked like tater tots in the bowl.
07-23-2012 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
He was one of Mike's operatives / henchmen. He turned on Mike because he needed the money.
So that would mean he's not on the list? Since obv a regular operatives/henchman guy that works for Mike will not be on the payroll officially...

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Originally Posted by Khaos4k
Are you sure we never met him? I was thinking he might be a "Henchman #3" type character from a previous episode. Mike definitely knew him, and talked to him in that weary, disappointed voice. I felt like he was one of Mike's guys and that he turned on him.
It's possible that we met him, he might be one of the security guys when Gus meets the cartel (and the cartel only sends the one low level guy).

Other than that I don't think we've seen any security that is still alive.

      
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