Win.

Oddly looks a lot like homer.

Is it crazy to think Hank and Walt will actually team up against a third party who is coming to wipe Walt out? Madrigal? The AZ guys?

Nothing is crazy at this point, aside from the things we're not supposed to discuss. The rest is totally up for grabs.

I'd be let down if the final "season" isn't mostly Walt v Hank v Jesse. Introducing and building up a new(ish) Big Bad would annoy me. You've spent so long building to these conflicts, give them all the time they need. (and the machine gun makes me a bit nervous in that regard, as that doesn't seem like how you solve a Jesse/Hank problem).

I would put the line at greater than 90% the final eps are Walt vs Hank vs Jesse. I can't imagine this would be ignored given the previous 50 eps have directly pointed to this conclusion. They basically said as much with Jesse going for the gun and the toilet epiphany in the final episode.

I agree, but I do think it'll be framed within an environment whereby everyone is in jeopardy somehow. I can't see them going into the last episode(s) with the implication that someone is going to win and someone's going to lose - I do think there will be some kind of overarching threat that will be the driving force behind the decisions of the three main characters. The machine gun from the flash-forward is not for use on one person, so there has to be some group of people that Walt would consider using it on.

I'm sticking to my 'everyone dies' theory for the time being, and I'm starting to think that we're gonna get the full Scarface treatment with Walt lying dead in the White family pool at the end of the show.

I think Saul's gonna survive.

Am I lucky or what? I just started watching BB yesterday, 60+ episodes to go, wahoo!

You're lucky you get to skip most BB threads in OOTV. Win-win.

Is it sad that on my last re-watch, I followed along with the older threads that I even participated in when they were current?

yes

yes

wait AMC doesn't use Arial on all of their stuff???

the machine AND the Scarface playing in the background makes it more likely it's a red herring.


it's too obvious that Walt is going to go out like Scarface, that he probably isn't going to use the M60 like Scarface would have.


therefore, the gun is for some reason we don't even know yet, but not linked to a "final stand" scene

Pretty ridiculous how anyone could have this opinion, Jesse is clearly still crucial to the plot and to the development of Walt as a character. If you can't see stuff like that I don't even know how you manage to enjoy the show.

Just re-watched the Season 5 premiere.

I realise the writers enjoy throwing out lots of potential future plotline clues and deciding whether to follow them up later, and the opening flash forward sequence is clear evidence of this technique. But I can't help wondering what was the point of re-introducing Ted?

I thought it was all but confirmed the purpose of the m60 with the bullets shown is for blowing something up.

Guns don't work like that. I think someone mentioned the tracer ammo means 1 in 5 rounds are tracers, the rest are normal rifle ammo.

Come on, guys. This is BB. The M60 will not be used Scarface style. Like someone else said, it's a red herring. It will be used in a unique and creative way, ala the big magnet, the chemicals that blew up Tuco's office, etc.

My guess is that Hank will learn about Ted's accident (if he doesn't know already) and go in to question him about what really happened. Ted made a comment about how "he'll never talk", right? I think we'll get a chance to see if he can live up to that. Or maybe there will be a race for Skyler / Walt to take him out before Hank gets to him...

In any case, if they reintroduced him in S5E1 and then don't use him for another major plot point I will concede to everyone who cried that his not being dead was poor writing.

I could see this, as long as it's the result of some sick lie or manipulation on Walt's part. Though that probably goes without saying.

I could more easily see a teaming up of Hank and Jesse. Depending on how much Hank is able to piece together about what Walt has actually done over the past year (e.g. if he figures Walt was in the RV and / or initiated the call about Marie being in the hospital) he could legitimately become a little sympathetic to Jesse. Maybe we're in for another "battle for Jesse's soul" ala Walt vs. Gus.

in the end walt will go down. but save jesse ldo

I really hope not. Walt doesn't deserve redemption

It's entirely possible the point was nothing other than to dick with people who were certain he was dead.