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08-02-2012 , 10:45 PM
Mike changed a bit in 5/3.

Before there was always a low key/calmness even when he was mad or threatening.

Now he just seems mad like he's on the verge of hitting or shooting someone.
08-02-2012 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Banner
All the guy did was give them a head's up about the nanny cam and disabled it,
Yeah but it was their very first interaction since the very serious
speach about not saying a word to Walt or Jesse unless spoken to.

Shouldn't he tell his boss about the nanny cam and let him
decide whether to pass the info on to the chefs now or Mike later?
08-02-2012 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by theginger45
I've said something to this effect before in this thread, but a lot of people so far have insinuated that the average woman would rather have a dead husband and a lot of money in the bank than a healthy, loving family. This post and many others since the beginning of this thread and in the season 4 thread have used Skylar's supposed 'annoyingness' as an excuse for rampant sexism, and it's really frustrating. The genius of this show is in its ability to play with the characters' morality, sure, but if when taking a step back from all the fun drugs and guns stuff, you don't see Skylar as the victim of the piece (along with Walt Jr.) then there is something seriously ****ing wrong with you.
after a certain point, husbands are worth more dead than alive. whether 50 y/o is that point is clearly a matter of taste, i'll grant.

the only victim in bb in my eyes is wendy. if, at any point, skyler could just let her husband have his secret meth chef life, she'd be livin on easy street.


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Originally Posted by Phildo

and yeah totally seems like you have a healthy attitude towards women dude

at any time he could have been arrested and lost everything. they could have lost their house and cars and other **** they didn't even buy with drug money too. but meth dealing is soooo cool, and walt is such a badass that he can't possibly be wrong!
i adore strong women. damages is like my fav show right now. in fact, the 5th season of damages goes toe-to-toe with the 5th of bb. (of course bb blows it out of the water in the first 4 seasons)

what you say about asset forfeiture is fair, though. walt did/does not have a good plan for shielding his ill-gotten assets.


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Originally Posted by Triumph36
People who hate Skyler and her presence on this show approach TV as wish fulfillment - this show is decidedly NOT that, as much as it would be awesome to be a dork like Walt who becomes super-hard and f*cks **** up, bro. I agree that Skyler is emasculating and irritating at times even before Walt starts seriously lying to her, but she's not really cut out for this whole murdering business.
yes, i def am living vicariously through walt (or tony s, vic mackey, or jax teller and so on). the show is MORE than mere wish fulfillment but it clearly can sustain my power fantasies.

skyler had four corners to choose from and picked the wrong one. she knew her husband was a meth chef. nobody is a drug dealer for any length of time without getting bloody. if she can't handle a bit of blood, then she should've hightailed it.

though, i would have preferred she just not ask walt so many damn questions.

for my part, if i had a shady wife, i would take it easy with the queries
08-02-2012 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Mike changed a bit in 5/3.

Before there was always a low key/calmness even when he was mad or threatening.

Now he just seems mad like he's on the verge of hitting or shooting someone.
jbanks is proving himself a true thespian. i'd say he's on tilt because he knows walt will be the death of him
08-03-2012 , 12:26 AM
I'm sure that someone has pointed out how crappy Anna Gunn looks this season

She's done a fine job acting but it's like they told her between S3 and S4 to gain 25 pounds, and between S4 and S5 to add 5 years of age
08-03-2012 , 12:38 AM
I would gladly use my one time to de-AIDS this thread.
08-03-2012 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rabe_stark
after a certain point, husbands are worth more dead than alive.
I rest my case about there being something wrong with you. This is a really disturbing point of view to have.

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Originally Posted by schu_22
I'm sure that someone has pointed out how crappy Anna Gunn looks this season

She's done a fine job acting but it's like they told her between S3 and S4 to gain 25 pounds, and between S4 and S5 to add 5 years of age
She's playing a character whose life is falling apart. Maybe they did tell her that.
08-03-2012 , 02:37 AM
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I'm sure that someone has pointed out how crappy Anna Gunn looks this season
prob stopped using as much make up
08-03-2012 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rabe_stark
jbanks is proving himself a true thespian. i'd say he's on tilt because he knows walt will be the death of him
yep. mike knows his time is coming up.

it really is amazing how destructive walt is. he made a well constructed drug empire with expansive reach crumble down within a matter of months.
08-03-2012 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Thug Bubbles



I assume you didn't follow the season 3 thread. It was really where the Skyler hate took full flight, and often devolved into blatant sexism, which is why it's being brought up now (and was then).
yea, indeed, i just caught up with the whole serie and jumped right ITT.

Anyways, moving on !
08-03-2012 , 05:40 AM
serious huge LOL @ the people bringing Skylar's morals and ethics compared to Walt's when discussing the topic of others not liking/hating her.

It's not about the fact that she's "a better person" than walt or whatever because he killed some people, put a kid in the hospital and that. Who cares what walt did FFS? We're talking about HER and it should be blatantly obvious she is hated because she is beyond ****ing annoying
08-03-2012 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Onion
serious huge LOL @ the people bringing Skylar's morals and ethics compared to Walt's when discussing the topic of others not liking/hating her.

It's not about the fact that she's "a better person" than walt or whatever because he killed some people, put a kid in the hospital and that. Who cares what walt did FFS? We're talking about HER and it should be blatantly obvious she is hated because she is beyond ****ing annoying
It's not blatantly obvious because not everyone finds her beyond annoying. What is it about her that you find so annoying?
08-03-2012 , 07:26 AM
everything.
08-03-2012 , 07:37 AM
Why are people hating on the Skyler scene exactly? I thought it was well-acted and it didn't feel out of place since she has been in some state of shock ever since she saw Ted. Not really get why it's such a polarising scene, I thought it was just an OK scene that was bound to come.
08-03-2012 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Onion
everything.
About the character or the actress? I think you can't deny she's a good actress. She's just amongst much better actors, in any other show she would be one of the better performers easily.

If it's about the character, it's not exactly like we're supposed to like Skyler anyway so what is the problem?
08-03-2012 , 08:13 AM
Personnally i thought the scene was too long (she says "shut up" 15 times, just went back and checked) and it became kinda awkward/cringe worthy.

I obviously dont have a problem with the actress lol, I just don't like the character, and I believe it's not the writers intention to have everyone like her, so I think it's totally fine.
08-03-2012 , 08:22 AM
The problem with Skylar and the entire family drama is how dull it is compared to the criminal stuff.

Any time she, or Marie, or Jr come on the screen, I immediately zone out. It's a critical and needed sub-plot, but it's boring. And much of that boredom gets translated into this Skylar hate.
08-03-2012 , 08:27 AM
I love all the people itt who seem to think they know exactly why others hate Schylar and why those people are wrong for hating Skylorr. Guess what? Not everyone likes the same things you do. Some people think she sucks just because. It's not because she's a woman. It's not because she's not a badass psychopath. It's not because they think she's ugly. It's just because they think she sucks.

and "wish fulfillment"

jesus
08-03-2012 , 08:31 AM
Man, stars wars is so unbelieveable.. That film ****ing sucked!
08-03-2012 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
I love all the people itt who seem to think they know exactly why others hate Schylar and why those people are wrong for hating Skylorr. Guess what? Not everyone likes the same things you do. Some people think she sucks just because. It's not because she's a woman. It's not because she's not a badass psychopath. It's not because they think she's ugly. It's just because they think she sucks.

and "wish fulfillment"

jesus
i'm not going to explore or explain the reasons why i hate her, she just sucks!
08-03-2012 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
I love all the people itt who seem to think they know exactly why others hate Schylar and why those people are wrong for hating Skylorr. Guess what? Not everyone likes the same things you do. Some people think she sucks just because. It's not because she's a woman. It's not because she's not a badass psychopath. It's not because they think she's ugly. It's just because they think she sucks.

and "wish fulfillment"

jesus
Well a lot of the awesomeness of the show can be redirected to his family. Without the family Walt wouldn't have anyone to protect and the "good parts" would be less good.

I personally don't even hate the family stuff. A show like Breaking Bad relies a lot on pacing, without pacing this show would obv suck since it's impossible to get to the highs BB reaches every once in a while consistently without sucking. While I agree the family stuff has led to some more boring episodes (S4E2 comes to mind), the show would most likely suck without it.

I personally have never hated Skyler for reasons you weren't supposed to, but maybe I have a high tolerence for that kind of ****.
08-03-2012 , 09:28 AM
What was Gus Fring's stance on gay marriage?
08-03-2012 , 09:47 AM
Anna Gunn Rolling Stone interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...ering-20120730
08-03-2012 , 10:21 AM
Great interview, she really seems to have wonderful motivation and a quiet depth to the character that may not always come across. When the series ends, her character will be one of the more interesting ones to go back and examine scene by scene.
08-03-2012 , 10:23 AM
"There's been a backlash against Skyler, something she has in common with women characters on a variety of big dramas about men who tend behave much worse than they do. Do you have a sense of why this happens? Does it faze you at all?


Some of it is still the double standard in our society – that it’s more acceptable for a man to be this antihero badass doing all these things that break the law or are really awful. People watching want to be Walt, or they identify with him. He doesn’t have to answer to anybody. He does what he wants. There’s a fantasy element to that, I think. I also think that in some ways, there’s kind of a sexism to it, honestly. Sometimes . . . [pauses] I’ve been told particularly, how do you say . . . non-flattering or just really vicious – you could use the word vitriolic – angry stuff about Skyler, or about other female characters on other shows. The hatred and the vitriol and the venom and the nastiness and the attacks are so personal sometimes that it feels like, "Oh gosh, OK, I get that you don’t like Skyler, you like Walt, you’re on his side, but it just feels different." I don’t feel like that stuff would be written about a male character.

Honestly, Skyler is sometimes the biggest impediment to Walt doing whatever he wants. For the people who love Heisenberg, who love the badass Walt, when Skyler says, "No, you shouldn’t do that," they’re like, "What is her deal!? What’s wrong with her?" [Laughs] I can understand that. I can. But having looked at articles that cite other female characters being attacked like this, I find it disturbing just in terms of a cultural phenomenon. I'm not saying everyone who's into the show and has an opinion is like that, but I feel there's an element of that in there, and it's an interesting gender issue. I'm glad that people are talking about it."

Spot on, you can see that stuff right here in our own thread.

      
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