you still havent mentionned who Pili can beat, for good reason.

sure

lots of dumb stuff happened today

I'd be shocked if Pilar won.
The show treats her like a joke.

She was sitting on a swing during the POV and she couldn't even finish. I heard she was in a costume all day so that could of played a part but the show was never interested in showing that.

She can win comps and she can get get to the end but if people don't think she's running the HOH she won't get credit.

Victoria would never win at the end unless we had the all time bitter jury. I know Caleb said if either Derrick or Cody turned on each other he'd vote for Victoria in the end but who really knows if he would.

If you want to say Pilar is better than Victoria I won't argue with you but that's not really saying much.

Like I said there's 7 players left and anything can happen. 7 players is half the season on a normal BB season. BBCAN started 16 players this season to throw in some twistos twists.

Of the remaining players left it would be difficult for her to win because everyone is playing super hard but it's not to say she has no chance, she's equally playing hard. Who's to say she can't win? Look at Ash and Sarah, they haven't won a competition and Pili is even more liked than these 2. To say that Pili has no chance of winning is ridiculous when there are so many players left in the season and anything can happen. I ranked Pili WAY higher than Kevin on my power rankings because Pili actually has a chance to get to the finales and even winning it. Whereas Kevin has NO CHANCE whatsoever of making it to the end. Kevin was essentially drawing dead in this game as we saw tonight. The twist had nothing to do with Kevin going home, it was his own terrible gameplay. We saw it tonight that when the day comes that he's not HOH and doesn't win Veto he was going home as he has no allies on his side. Doesn't matter if it was this week or next.

The show treats Pili like a joke because they want to give the narrative that Kevin is the "mastermind" LOL. The important part is that the rest of the house don't treat her as a joke. God and Bruno don't think she's a very good strategist because she's too innocent and pure but they are actually afraid of her competitive spirit. They keep saying they are worried about her because she's always at the end of every competition. If she's sitting at the end I would not be surprised whatsoever if people like Ash, Zach, Willow, God and Bruno gives her votes. It's not out of this world that she can win.

I agree on the part Pilar had a better shot to make the finals vs Kevin. Being in a showmance was always bad for Kevin since they'd always vote him out 1st.

The twist didn't really hurt Kevin since if it was just a normal double he'd still have went. Zach sure lucked out with Bruno winning POV. He's still a huge threat but amazing in the mix after his crazy HOH.

Of course they are scared b/c if she wins HOH they could go up. That doesn't mean they will respect her game at the end. If I'm proven wrong I'll give you credit but up til this point it seems like fan fiction.

All I'm saying is that she does have a chance and it's not as slim as some of you are making it out to be. I'm not saying she's going to win but some of you are claiming she has NO chance and that simply isn't even close to being true. When you're well liked and good at comps and you're not a floater (she's been in a strong alliance all season) and has good relations with the other side of the house, there's always a chance.

The only thing that was for certain was that Kevin was drawing dead to get to the end/win. Of the remaining players, I would not say anyone is drawing dead.

Pete lives in his own world were black is white, being strategic is bad, being a moron is good play, pawns are controlling the game and everything we see on air is the opposite of what is really happening.

Total delusion.

Okay buddy, you clearly have no idea what's going on. You're so lost it's not even funny. Just giving you the truth on your boy Kevin, a truly sucky player. I bet you thought Garrett from survivor was a great strategic player too. Gtfo man.

Please let Kevin know the next time you play poker with him in Calgary that Pete said it was quite glorious and delicious seeing him get his ass booted after having to endure his vomit inducing diary sessions on the show bragging about his 'master plan' and running the show. Dude was drawing dead weeks ago. AWESOME EPISODE TONIGHT!!!!!

Even if Caleb were to vote for Victoria, he is only 1 vote. I cant see Victoria winning either. Dumb Cody just gave away 450k/500k to his buddy.

Just because the show treats Pilar not so hot doesnt mean anything. This isnt Survivor or Amazing Race with the winning edits or not.

Of course Cody is an idiot. (Jocasta, and Donny voted against Derrick) Derrick was just on RHAP and he said he doesn't talk to him b/c Donny still a little bitter.

Sure the show is almost live so yea Pilar COULD win but as of now she's near the bottom of my list. She still has time to change things but at this point I can't come up with a final where she wins.

With jury starting early it wouldn't shock me if there was a final 3.

My early pick to win the game is Godfrey. I'm watching him work both sides of the house right now and he's amaaazing. His social game is top notch and he has a solid grasp of the game.

Yesss I knew it! If you're online right now (like right now) go watch the feeds (timestamp 11.30am ET ish) between the convo of God/Brit/Sarah. The person they are saying that can't win the game is Ash and everyone will give all their votes to Pili (except Zach obv). They all think Ash has been hiding behind Zach and has done nothing all season and that she hasn't won a comp unlike Pili. Pili is way more liked than Ash. None of them respect Ash's game.

Edit: They all love Pili, Brit is saying Pili is a complete sweetheart and that she took the Lobster costume punishment over taking someone else's prize when she had a chance to steal in the gypsy reward challenge. They all love her and would easily like to see her win than some of the other remaining people in the house.

I agree Godfrey has a good shot. I think his power is rising a bit all the time.

LOL timestamp 1:21 ET 10.21 PT, Zach is talking to Bruno, talking about Kevin. Zach says he thought Kevin was gay at the beginning and the cameras immediately switches to Pili and Ash

I don't watch the feeds but if everything you are saying is true this is the worst edited season ever.

im still baffled that sarah eliminated willow

Agree. If Pete is not insane (not ruled out) it really sounds like everything is actually the exact opposite of what they are showing which makes me wonder why the producers would edit it that way?

i just think sarah is an idiot.

And kevin was very entertaining and they didnt expect him to go out this fast (but then they made sure of it with that triple evic -.-)

yeah I'm stunned she voted out Willow as well. They were EXTREMELY close in the after dark episodes.

Watching the latest after dark episode and apparently Sarah and Bruno got in a massive argument, I hope they air it.

The reason Sarah voted out Willow (convo with Sarah talking to God/Brit this morning)

Sarah's #1 ally is Willow. During the commercial break everyone was still reeling and wondering wtf to do during the triple eviction. BB basically dropped a bomb on them and everyone was scrambling. God and Bruno were in the pantry discussing wtf they were going to do. Willow came in and begged them for their votes to stay. God and Bruno still haven't made up their minds on what they were going to do and told Willow to give them some time alone to discuss this so she left the pantry in tears (as we saw on the show) To her, that meant she was in fact leaving and that she didn't have their votes.

Sarah asked Willow why she was bawling because it should be obvious Kevin and Pili were leaving. She told Sarah she don't think she has Bruno and God's vote to stay. Now remember this was just right after Bruno used the veto on Zach and shocked the house so no one has any idea wtf is going on. Was Bruno playing them all along and there is in fact a boys alliance? Why isn't Willow staying?

During the live show back from commercial break

During Kevin's speech he was looking at the guys and said to keep him because if they kept Pili or Willow there is a girl's alliance and will be coming after them. He will be on the guys side if they keep him.

Zach votes Willow (He's very close with Willow and knows Pili is Ash's best friend, this vote is super interesting)
Bruno votes Willow
God votes Pili
Ash votes Pili
Sarah votes Pili

Sarah was in fact the tie breaker.

4thstreetpete's super genius interpretation on what happened and why Sarah voted Pili

When Willow came out bawling and didn't think she had the votes to stay, Sarah was still not sure wtf is happening. Were the boys actually going to keep Kevin to stop a girls alliance from happening? She knows for a fact that Pili is getting a vote from Ash for sure because they're best friends. Sarah has no idea how Bruno, God and now Zach are going to vote considering Bruno basically just backstabbed her and Brit. The worst case scenario for her and Brit is if Kevin actually stays. She doesn't want to give Willow a vote if it meant that the vote will be wasted.

That's why when she was voting she told Arissa she really wants to vote Willow but she's hoping Ash and God would throw a vote on Pili so that she can keep a girl in the house (this was on the show). With Pili getting a vote from Ash and now Sarah, that meant Pili has 2 votes. All she needed was one more to stay. Had she given her vote to Willow and no one else is voting for Willow her vote will be wasted and anything could happen.

The interesting part is that Zach voted to keep Willow. Sarah had no idea that he would, had she known Zach and Bruno both voted to keep Willow she would've voted Willow also. But remember this basically happened within seconds and no one had time to gather their thoughts as everyone was scrambling.

We won't know for sure what everyone is thinking until we see the DR sessions on Sunday, but this my most logical guess.

The fact that Zach voted to keep Willow is super important. He knows that Pili and Ash are best friends and he also has a feeling that if it was final 3, Ash would take Pili to the finale over him. He has brought this up a few times with the guys possibly to work them (?) but he has never discussed this with Ash. By voting out Pili it's actually showing that he's thinking really hard about his position in the game.

These guys are playing hard and they all know what they're doing, there's a reason for every decision they're making. This isn't no Donny and Nicole strategy session from BB16.

yeah i guess if she thought the boys were never saving willow it makes sense but yeeeesh

Ashleigh won HOH

The funny thing is BB is going to drop another bomb on them next Wed with another twistiest twistos twist . Someone is getting the Coup D'etat and it's most likely one of Sarah/Brit/Godfrey. So no matter who Ashley puts up there's a strong chance Zach might end up on the block as replacement

I forget what the twist was is it both HAVE to get changed or option or something else?