I'm not sure of all the teams for the comps but i know Nicole's team is the only team with nobody from the other side on it right? So why would they only want James to throw for his team for the comp? Why not all the teams throw to give Tiffany or Corey the comp?

Nothing these people do is smart. There's no hiding the fact the vets are going against the newbies once jozea is evicted so James throwing the comp would be dumb unless it's a group comp which I don't think it can be since some teams have 4 others 3 and 2 competing.

Pretty sure Glenn would've ran through this season if he had any game sense at all.

How can anyone come in to play this game and not know who zingbot is? Have you really watched BB Jozea?

It is crazy. Every season we say wow this cast is horrible but this has to actually be the worst cast ever. I can't see anyone this season with even the potential to be a top 20 all time player except possibly Frank Tiffany or Paulie and they all have pretty big flaws.

It's absolutely ridiculous that the team decides Tiffany is the only soldier not good as said by frank this morning and agreed by nicole, Day, and Zekiah. I mean she has done zero to deserve to be singled out from the 8 pack as the one person not a good soldier. That whole her telling Paulie about vanessa is a total bogus reason. If they said Tiffany should be first to go out of 8 pack because she's the only one with enough brains to form a sub alliance to go against Frank, Day, Nicole as Tiffany would realize they would be tougher to beat in a final 2. And also because Tiffany would realize that she wasn't close enough to any of them individually to expect their trust to take her any deeper than top 8. Where people like Zekiah and Corey would just be followers and less likely to turn against whatever the vets tell them to do. I could respect that reasoning to want to get rid of her first of the 8 but it's weak and bogus to blame it on emotions.

To say it's because she's emotional? What does that have to do with anything once down to 8? I can almost buy(but no as it's bogus anyway) the Tiff's an alliance liability because if she gets into a fight might blow up everything she knows. But once to 8 all 8 already know everything. So what's the emotional point as there's nothing to blow up anymore? It's because she's a danger because she will think outside the box of "i'll do what Frank, Day, and Nicole tell me to do."

How does this always happen to the Rousso's? Lol.

I agree but her actions just make her look so shady. She might have ADD or something but she always asks people to repeat themselves and she just doesn't know how to have conversations.

Even when Day said I heard Bronte screaming I don't care if you're an actor dancer etc you're going out or something like that Tiffany was like why do they want Zak out? Day is like we don't know what she meant for sure but that was weird. Tiffany kept saying hmm but it's weird she wants Zak out. Then Zak comes up and the first thing Tiffany says is they want you out.

Bronte was talking about the apocalypse or some random thing that had nothing to do with the game.

I just don't understand how even Frank talks to Jozea and Jozea says only person he doesn't like/trust is Tiffany and Frank immediately goes to Day and says he's nervous about Tiffany. All these people are so bad.

Day now telling Tiffany that James doesn't trust her. She is the new Audrey.

And this is why you need Day on this show. If dealing with a sane team, well if dealing with a sane team wouldn't be questioning Tiff to begin with, but if a sane team decided to cut one of their own it would be dead silence until they were out the door. This is good for Tiff to get a chance to clear the air or at least know the vets are now her enemy so she can proceed accordingly. Good for drama/entertainment more importantly.

The sad part is poor james is gonna get blamed for the questioning Tiff when it was really Day and nicole feeding this paranoia into james and the team that started all this. I really want to see Tiff take out Nicole. Also wanted Day but i'd be ok with working with her since she at least had enough heart to tip of Tiff that she was getting railroaded by her own team. Even though a bad move for Day's game in many ways. As the rest of the team will trust her less if they find out she tipped Tiff off. And it gives Tiff a chance to help the other side fight against the vets.

It was a dumb thing of Tiff though to tell james he could vote for the other side without running it by the whole alliance first. At least that's the way Tiff described it to Day. I thought she was just thinking that we should run it by the team not to actually tell james he can if he wants. But maybe Tiff just again doing a bad job of explaining herself. I mean if James switched the vote and tiff did Jozea would stay. Is it at all possible Tiff was gonna try and flip the script as she got wind of her team selling her down the river? I don't think so but maybe. I can see why they were suspicious if it went down like that.

James didn't say that though. Day told the others to not trust Tiff and then told Tiff James said it.

But james came into the kitchen to tell the team(at least i think that's what happened if remembering correctly) vanessa said he could vote the other side if he wanted because jozea would go home anyway. I mean that's not saying he doesn't trust her. You're right. It made him wonder though and made the rest of the team not trust her. Frank is the only one that knows all this is b.s. but he's ok feeding into the paranoia as it makes it that much easier to get her out when he wants. And makes him a less of a target when it comes time to eliminate alliance members as well.

I actually think of all the vets Frank trusts Tiffany the least. That's because they talk the least but I think they're going to bond soon and have an alliance with Corey Paulie Nicole and Michelle. Possibly James too. Been thinking this for a while now.

Yeah you're right I misunderstood you. He definitely knows she is on their side. I don't think he even knows he will be in an alliance with her yet. I think Paulie and Vanessa are going to start it and Paulie is going to bring Frank in. This is just my gut though. A lot depends on the next HOH and if Day gets called out.

Right, that's what i meant.

I could see that happening. There are a decent amount of scenario's involving Tiff and frank that they can choose if they decide to work together. And it would make sense for Tiff/Frank to join because you can't think Nicole/Day/Zak would break away from each other over them. Tiff wants paulie and michelle because she knows she can trust them. Frank has talked about cutting Paulie after other side unless that's just b.s. talk to throw off. Frank would want Bridgette and Corey involved as he likes and trusts them. Paul could go anywhere. Pretty much the first team that picks him up which would be more likely Frank and Tiff's team as Nicole Day already loaded with players not thinking they need more.

I wonder who Michelle is. I mean sometimes i think she can be a mastermind whose downplaying her game. Other times she seems like she's kinda not that intelligent and acting more like a newbie just enjoying the ride hoping to make jury. I think she's more intelligent than she's letting on and leaning towards mastermind. I mean she's asking Day about how did Steve play/what was his game? I mean you're on the boards and a bb fan but you don't know how last years champion played? What am i missing here? That's something Paul and the other side would ask and it be legit as they don't watch, but her? I think she's making herself purposely look weak to Day while also messing with her friends watching and laughing as they know she knows everything.

Somehow Day will slip all blame for telling Tiffany that James doesn't trust her. She already has that whole group of 8 (except Michele) convinced that Tiffany is too emotional/ a little shady. I don't see Day/Zak/Nicole ever really being fine with her.

I think her best out is to get close with Frank/James. She could break away with a Frank / James / Paulie / Michele group. Being close with Paulie & Michele could be her saving grace.

I don't see her somehow breaking away though, she'll just try to remain loyal to the 8. I think she is in bad shape here and won't realize how bad it until it is too late.

I kinda agree with that. The thing about Tiffany is every returnee was beat by one of the best ever so they are all afraid of her because she is Vanessa's sister. I don't know if Frank is being completely honest with Day but they way it seems he doesn't want to work with her long term and probably sees her like a Dan type and is still traumatized. I do think James would trust her if she finally tells him Day said it because James did trust Vanessa to an extent and they were both open and honest with each other to a certain degree.

Is DarkCheck the guy that acted like he was part of the Rousso family last year?

The noobies once again: "James is the mastermind."

These guys are so hilarious it's a shame they will all be gone soon. At least Jozea and Vic will be. Paul has a chance to survive and sneak through the cracks.

I think they think this is lord of the flies.

yes

I have the feeling Tiffany is getting evicted early. I've only caught a little of the feeds, but I've heard several comments about her being suspicious, something about how she stares at people or whatever. And it doesn't help that she reminds them of Vanessa who played the game so hard. Neither side seems to like her.

Of course, the one they should be worried about is smooth Frank, as he appears to be on his way to eating up their win equity.

I think after Jozea gets eliminated the newbies will change their targets to the ones who lied to them and the vets will go after them so it's possible Tiffany Paulie and Michelle can ride the middle. Who knows how they will react though but it would be funny if that's why James goes home after last year with him going after Clay and Shelly instead of Vanessa for the same reason.

Every word of this post is spot on.

Tiffany has a chance to slide through for the reasons yeah you says underneath here. But more than likely is in alot of trouble for the reasons you mentioned unless Frank decides to work with her and repair her image.

Everyone kissing Frank's ass thinking he's a great guy and trusting him. Allowing him to skate freely for probably a very long time. This while imo should be trusted the least and the only one with enough brains to do damage. He had loyalty to Boogie. That doesn't mean gonna have loyalty to the Day's and Nicole's of big brother unless he thinks it better for his game. He's definitely the favorite right now. Only person that probably understands the game on his level in tiffany and she's prolly not gonna be around long unless she gets tipped off and can rally the troops against him. That's if the troops(most likely other side of house +michelle and paulie) buy in as they may not because of her rep. Or if he decides to keep her around. If there were any top players this year they'd know Frank is the one to be concerned about. Tiffany might have an idea but not in a position to do anything about it right now. Plus she's working with him atm to get out people from other side.

Haven't followed that closely. Is the plan still to vote out Jozea? Does he still have absolutely zero clue that he is leaving on Thursday?