Probably for a while since it will be more of a chance to keep the vets safe as long as they have it.

I saw Vanessa earlier today so nah haha.

Newbies- "James is the brains"

This Jozea led meeting is too much. Everyone has to watch it. Might be better than anything Devin has ever done.

Yeah I came to post that. Lol. Nicole tells Paul she's glad he won after he wins veto and now Paul is telling his crew she likes him and they're good and she's no longer the top target. Then he closes with James being the brains. Impressive deduction skills.

OMG my brain hurts trying to make sense of wtf Jozea is saying

Newbies mad at Bridgette for flipping. Basically one of few who hasn't.

With Tiffany safe for the week it seems odd she hasn't told everyone who her sister is. I guess half the house knows.

She just told Paulie.

Davonne really is the worst ever. She just can't trust anyone. The 5 girls all said they would each take a guy to make their side alliance and Tiffany's side alliance was supposed to be Paulie. Tiffany and Paulie went to sit at the chess board so she could tell him and Davonne is in HOH room with Zak telling her how Tiffany can't be trusted cause she does things like this. These kinds of things are what got her in trouble last year although I can see not being able to change after being traumatized by Audrey.

She's simply destined to play herself out of the game.

For real. I predict a Tiffany Paulie Frank Corey Nicole Michelle alliance will form and become the real alliance running the show. Maybe James if he goes with them over Day's side. Side note, Michelle is impressing me. Nothing amazing but I see some things I wasn't expecting. Could be too early to tell though.

First saying "don't tell Tiffany as she'll get paranoid" in response to her alliance telling her the other side of the house calling a meeting that everyone can come to except tiffany. Don't know why other side said no tiffany? Unless maybe they were gonna try and pitch putting her up in place of Paul pulling himself off. But nothing else was discussed to what that was about. Then the thing with zekiah telling her to watch out for tiff and paulie. Zekiah followed along btw saying she trusts tiff the least of their 5.

Actually the mere fact that a meeting was called that the other side of the house didn't want Tiffany to go to should make the "fatal 5" trust her even more. As if the other side doesn't want tiffany at the meeting means she's not working with them as they're thinking tiffany is alone. But doesn't mean tiff can't have a side deal with paulie but still.

Frank talking to feeds every morning is great. Even he is like wtf Davonne. Apparently Day is nervous that James and Nicole will make a final 2. She is bat**** crazy it's week 1.

not shocked

its Day

Yeah. Day should just be happy her team of 8 haven't faltered once and stop freaking out if one is in the house talking to someone not in the 8 pack. Her paranoia is the only thing that could break that crew up alot faster than needed.

I could tell james had a crush on nicole. That is his type too. There are alot of girls that are kinda like Meg(natalie, birdgette, nicole) which maybe BB dd on purpose to lure James. I'd be slightly worried about james being too devoted to nicole but i wouldn't voice it to frank or anyone as it doesn't matter til much later in the game. Voice it now and it could burn you if frank decided to trust james more than her. As he would tell james and then james would then be putting Day on his eviction list much earlier than he ever thought.

I think Tiffany made a mistake yesterday when she said "yeah, that was shady!"(in response to i think bronte and natalie leaving the meeting when michelle came in.) when she was in the bogus meeting Jozea was holding. It put a spotlight on Tiffany that she finds Bronte and natalie "shady" which makes her look like an enemy to them and their men. Almost immediately after Paul was making Tiffany their 2nd highest target after james. I think Tiffany's social game isn't that good so far. I little better than Vanessa but she has the same personality traits like Vanessa where she seems to shut herself off/be quiet and stare around at people even on her own team. Maybe that's why many on her team seeing her lower on the ladder than higher. Where Nicole is a very good social player as she's sweet and fun which makes people gravitate more toward her, especially Day.

I'm not impressed with Tiffany. There is something off with her when she talks to other people like she thinks she is cooler than she is or something. It's really weird.

I still think Tiffany goes far just b/c her position.

My guess is she knows the game very well. Prolly the best in the house. But her teacher is vanessa whose one problem was being liked/being socially cool. So it would seem that's Tiffany's weakness as well as she's scarily like Vanessa and Vanessa can't help her with social. She's not awful or anything(she's not disliked) and she may get better as she gets to know people but just not as social as say Nicole, Frank, and James who disarm(relax people) people with their personalities.

I think she goes far as well and is one of the favorites. But it would be alot easier if she knew how to be light and cool. I mean she even told michelle about michelle's book in the house that she writes in or something. Michelle was like "you were snooping on me?" and Tiffany says "of course. i'm very smart"(like vanessa she's a bit arrogant). I mean why would you want it to look like you're checking up or investigating her when she's one of your closest allies and also tell her your a genius to fear? Kinda stupid for a smart person.

I agree with both of you.

I wouldn't be surprised if she won or went home soon. I think she is capable of having a good social game and maybe I'm just reading too much into it but I feel like eventually she will rub people the wrong way. I hope not though I am rooting for her.

Vanessa did have a pretty good social game though. She was basically 6 people's number 2 or 3. She just had bad social game with her non allies.

Is it just me or does this cast seem exceptionally dull?

It was good and bad. It was good in a sense that she kept reminding people that she's loyal and never lied to them(giving examples, btw Tiffany has already done this one member mentioned) which made people trust her. But it also made people not totally like her as she was always in their face freaking them out. It was ok for her tight people for the most part but her personality shut her off and rubbed others the wrong way on the other side of the house.

Day now mad that Paulie was talking and is having a pow wow with James and Zak about it. Frank walks in and says it's fine he's just playing the game. My god I can't stand these idiots.

Day and Zekiah don't seem to be the sharpest tools in the shed. That and the reason women alliances haven't worked. As they get more paranoid and jealous. Day paranoid feeding Zekiah's paranoia. And i think zekiah may be a little jealous that Paulie's spending more time with Tiffany than her.

Luckily the voice of reason came in as frank calmed them down some. I mean how can Day and Zekiah be so nervous of Tiffany when the enemy tells you they want Tiffany out because she's talking with Paulie and Michelle trying to sway michelle to vote out Jozea instead of Paulie. Michelle's on your team and Paulie is on your team sorta at the moment. By process of elimination if she's not on the other side of the house she must be on yours. Or you think she has a master plan to run the house with Paulie alone. Lol.

Then Zak and Day poison james into thinking Tiffany is up to something. James then saying "i guess she's playing her sisters game now."

Tiffany just talked to the cameras saying she trusts Michelle Paulie Corey and Nicole and I think Frank but not positive. Then says Day and Zak to an extent. Not sure who she wants her number 2 to be yet but maybe Day but she thinks Day wants Zak to be her number 2 so she is going to lay low and wait to see what develops.