I mean I didn't really. But I thought she was probably the 2nd best returning player of the 4 (LOL vets).

I just can't get over how bad this was though

Yeah this is insanely bad the first thing she should be thinking about is numbers and a #2 option not just gun for someone at all costs and risk an ally.

accurate

paul/jozae's ratio of how confident they are vs how terrible they actually are is enormous



and ya that was a completely horrible decision by nicole. shes so stupid its hard to watch. even early in the episode when she thought she was manipulating corey into not being HOH and was proud of herself. like he obviously didnt want to be HOH himself so that should not have been hard whatsoever

and putting paulie up, ugh


i dont blame paulie as much because he didnt have much of a choice. it was clear that he was in a room with all of the vets and they had all made the decision beforehand to egg him on. if i was him i at least wouldve pointed out the votes though and made a comment like "i get that you're gonna protect me, but you're only 3 votes out of the 6-7 i need. what are the others?"

just bad all around. nicole was also dumb when she thought victor was being dumb, because it was smart of victor to throw jozae under the bus there. at least im assuming they arent actually 'friends' and he was planning on throwing him under the bus

hoping some of the newbs will turn out to be smart strategically. between paul, jozae, and all of the returning players, this is just a mess so far. im entertained though

if the veto doesnt get used and it comes down to paulie vs jozae, the newbs would be absolutely ******ed to vote jozae. its gonna become obvious to them if it isnt already that paulie and the vets are cool with each other because of cody. just bad bad bad by nicole, and really by all of the vets for not talking her out of it

That has to be one of the all time worst moves.

also its insane how much tiffany looks/sounds/acts like vanessa. if you space out at all while watching its easy to think it is actually vanessa before you realize its not. idk how anyone who watched last season wouldnt figure this out immediately

Victor is safe because of that first competition so I think he just didn't care much about being subtle.

oh thats true. forgot about that

There's a chance Paulie's team would vote to keep him along with the 3 vets and possibly Tiffany and Corey. Still a horrible move though obviously.

I think Nicole is okay compared to other vets but still think this move made no sense even tho I think she has the numbers. No reason to risk any percent when you don't have to.

Yep. She said the difference between her and vanessa is she wouldn't be emotional. Then her team in last and the tears come out already. She's a vanessa clone lol. I think she will try not to be in people's faces as much though. Prolly got good tips from vanessa and should be one of the best players. Frank and Tiff gonna be the best players imo.

I'm rooting for the Day and Tiff combo to go far. But i think Day won't be able to keep quiet and eventually will seal her own fate.

Feeds are up and 1st thing we see is Jozea's Junk right in our faces

Corey Paulie Frank alliance with possibly Nicole and Bridgette. Veto not played yet.

It's tilting me that the clock on the live feed is off by like 40 minutes.

House meeting at 2 am thrown by Jozea. Nicole James and Michelle not invited.
Jozea is the least likeable person since this show's start.
Nicole crying to Day.

Drama already.. Supposedly a house meeting at 2 AM and only Michelle and Nicole aren't invited.

Corey also not invited.

Paul is actually talking like a normal person when he's around people. Decent social game compared to his DR's. Jozea not so much.

So happy I am not the only one very tilted by this. I assumed I was on some delay and couldn't get it live.

Tiffany said to feedsters only a few people know she is Vanessa's sister. The 4 vets, Michelle and Zakiyah only. They are the 8 pack with Corey and I don't know the last but I'm guessing Cody's brother. The other 7 are the dumb people or something like that.

Stupid squad

That is already 8 people actually so I guess Cody's brother isn't in it.

Unbelievably dumb by Nicole. Likely the worst first HoH move of all time, and for being so early in the game its hard to have found a worse play.

BEST case scenario is the 1 outer where Pauly wins veto

Your next best is what... Someone in your alliance wins? Would they even pull Pauly off? Because then he will be on the outs with the newbies as someone who is with the vets.

And of course a huge % of the time he goes home. I can't even fathom how dumb it is. But of course can't expect much from the brain trust of Nicole Davonne and James. Frank is probably fine to just chill and let the ******s take each other out.


Just can't even find a justification at all for putting up one of your allies when you're outnumbered 5-10 lololol

Well apparently they're in an 8 person alliance without Paulie that either formed before noms which would make sense or formed after noms and now Paulie isn't with them or they are pretending he isn't with them for some reason.

I think its Vets+Tiffany+Michelle+Corey+Zakiyah

That seems to be right but also frank has an alliance with Corey and Paulie. Maybe Tiffany and Michelle think this is a huge alliance but possibly they are on the outs and everyone has sub alliances but them. Too soon to tell. So far only heard about this 8 person alliance from Tiffany and Michelle so there could be things we don't know yet.

If Tiffany and Michelle stay close I like that for them but they def need convince newbies target vets soonish but still early.