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05-24-2017 , 07:20 PM
Ok, I will admit when I am wrong.

This is Executive Producer Tom Schnauz Q & A:

Q: With Episode 7 (and the commercial at the end of episode 6), we’re seeing Jimmy playing the early stages of the Saul Goodman character. What beats are most important at this point in that persona’s creation?

A: He’s just dipping his toe into the Saul Goodman persona, even though he used it back in Cicero when he said, “S’all good, man.” It’s far away from the lawyer we know on Breaking Bad. For me, right now it’s just about testing the waters. What I love about this episode with Jimmy and everything that Bob [Odenkirk] does is there’s such desperation in this episode. [Laughs] He very badly needs money and to keep up the persona that everything’s going fine. We keep seeing him get beat down over and over again with this community service and the guitar store owners who he had a handshake deal with to do a commercial and then they pull out. He’s just desperately trying so many things. That’s where I feel like Saul emerges from – this desperation of needing to get things done. The Jimmy magic isn’t really working for him this episode and things aren’t clicking the way they normally do with Kim. I think the real Saul Goodman moment is at the end of the episode when he breaks down and uses that to get back at Chuck, and we don’t fully understand the consequences of that.

Q: Although it turns into a con to get Chuck back, do you think there is some truth in Jimmy’s emotional release?

A: In my opinion, he actually breaks down. There’s too many bad things going against him, and he doesn’t need to hear that his insurance rates are going up 150 percent. He comes in like Mr. Smooth to put the charm on and solve the problem, but it doesn’t work for him. He gets hit with this news about more money he needs to pay that he doesn’t have. I think he genuinely cracks. Chuck doesn’t appear in the episode, but his spirit is hovering over this whole episode. Kim has a breakdown at work because of Chuck, and [Jimmy] has the same kind of breakdown. This thing that they did, even though he believes they were right, is itching at him. He doesn’t want to take any blame. Like, “It’s that son of a *****’s fault. I’m sitting here, crying, and I can unload a little payback.” And he takes that opportunity.

Full Q & A:
http://www.amc.com/shows/better-call...tter-call-saul
05-24-2017 , 07:31 PM
I do not understand why Kim is so sympathetic towards Chuck though. If it's guilt over the bank, get over it- you're an accomplis at this point. As a great fighter once said, I wanna f*ck chuck
05-24-2017 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pindawg
I do not understand why Kim is so sympathetic towards Chuck though. If it's guilt over the bank, get over it- you're an accomplis at this point. As a great fighter once said, I wanna f*ck chuck
Because she knows about the original deception and she's the most straight laced of all the characters involved with Jimmy. It eats at her conscience that they did lie in court and injured an ill man, going so far to bring his estranged ex wife into it.
05-24-2017 , 07:43 PM
I can't believe this silly discussion went on for this many pages. It's OBVIOUS that it wasn't premeditated. Jimmy snapped and broke down when the world was caving in on him. He's trying to be a good guy but it's not working for him. He's hustling but not getting his commercials, him insurance rates are going up 150%, Chuck did a number on him. He went in to talk to the insurance lady to have something worked out and finds out the world can be a cruel place. He finally cracks and sees a way to stick it to Chuck. Yall making it way more complicated than it needs to be.
05-24-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Because she knows about the original deception and she's the most straight laced of all the characters involved with Jimmy. It eats at her conscience that they did lie in court and injured an ill man, going so far to bring his estranged ex wife into it.
I agree with what you're saying, but her attitude around Jimmy doesn't portray any indifference. If she is that empathetic towards Chuck, why hide it from Jimmy?
05-24-2017 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pindawg
I do not understand why Kim is so sympathetic towards Chuck though. If it's guilt over the bank, get over it- you're an accomplis at this point. As a great fighter once said, I wanna f*ck chuck
This isn't Survivor where everything is a game with emotionless robots. These are real people with emotions, just like in life.
05-24-2017 , 07:46 PM
She was in on it before the hearing too, going as far as baiting Chuck to admit there was another tape
05-24-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 4thstreetpete
This isn't Survivor where everything is a game with emotionless robots. These are real people with emotions, just like in life.
Duh brah... but Kim should have no sympathy towards the company that forced her out. They put her through ****...and she has no alliegence to Chuck, let alone Howard at this point of her career.
05-24-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pindawg
She was in on it before the hearing too, going as far as baiting Chuck to admit there was another tape
Sometimes people are caught up in the moment and feels remorse afterwards. She tells Paige that Chuck is mentally ill and sees now that they took advantage of him.
05-24-2017 , 07:55 PM
I should say this is my favorite episode for the 3rd season. Lots of good stuff in this ep and the return of Playuh! This really feels like the episode we've all been waiting for. We've seen the events that would eventually lead Jimmy into becoming Saul, it's all coming together finally. We get the full turn shortly after this moving forward. Great stuff.
05-24-2017 , 07:55 PM
She's not so innocent.. if she has a guilty conscience, it's on her. If she ends up ruining her career because of this, Jimmy shouldn't feel remorseful, but he should be pissed that she didn't say something sooner.
05-24-2017 , 09:16 PM
Regarding Jimmy's attempts to sell his ad slots, why didn't he accept the furniture store guy's offer to buy all the remaining commercial slots on credit? It looked like the best offer he was going to get.
05-24-2017 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
He made many calls trying to get the refund. He knew that wasn't gonna happen.

He went there to **** over Chuck.
LOL

He spent the entire day picking up trash and then racing around town with his film crew while begging for money. He didn't take time out just to go to the insurance agency in the hopes of screwing Chuck.

In addition, you do realize if he previously knew this was Chuck's insurance carrier he could have just sent them the transcripts with an explanatory cover letter? He wouldn't have had to do the whole in-person, song-and-dance routine.
05-24-2017 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
LOL

He spent the entire day picking up trash and then racing around town with his film crew while begging for money. He didn't take time out just to go to the insurance agency in the hopes of screwing Chuck.

In addition, you do realize if he previously knew this was Chuck's insurance carrier he could have just sent them the transcripts with an explanatory cover letter? He wouldn't have had to do the whole in-person, song-and-dance routine.
That would make for some great TV there.
05-24-2017 , 09:54 PM
Currently rewatching Sunk Costs, and Mike only puts the drugs in one of the shoes. How does he know which one it is in when he shoots? Seems pretty far fetched IMO.
05-24-2017 , 09:59 PM
oh, the scene where he throws a pair of tennis shoes containing a bag of drugs onto an electrical wire over a road in the middle of the desert, gets hector's truck to stop under it, shoots one of the shoes to leak drugs onto the exterior of the truck which then drives away and somehow gets flagged at the border was pretty far fetched? u dont say...
05-24-2017 , 10:09 PM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that Paige is teh ghey and wants to get in Kim's pantays?
05-24-2017 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Ok, I will admit when I am wrong.
Because you're opinion differs from a producer?
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Originally Posted by parisron
This is Executive Producer Tom Schnauz Q & A:

A: In my opinion, he actually breaks down.
In my opinion, it's an act. Much like when Walter broke down in Hank's office to place a bug.

Not sure it's important if it was planned or not. We may never know for sure.

Kinda like is Gus gay? Does it matter?
05-24-2017 , 11:11 PM
I thought it was odd that he said in his opinion. lol

Wouldn't the Executive producer know exactly what is going on the scene and what each character is suppose to be thinking, etc?

Edit:
I guess I didn't really know what an Executive Producer does.

Last edited by parisron; 05-24-2017 at 11:20 PM.
05-25-2017 , 01:47 AM
the only reason presented that Jimmy didn't plan to screw Chuck is that Jimmy cried a bit. but he maintained the crying game while he BS'd about loving his brother. So that's not very persuasive.

Last edited by DeadMoneyWalking; 05-25-2017 at 01:48 AM. Reason: + the intentional fallacy
05-25-2017 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapid_Fire
Is anyone else getting the vibe that Paige is teh ghey and wants to get in Kim's pantays?
Yes
05-25-2017 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pindawg
Yes
+2
05-25-2017 , 06:24 AM
<----this Ritchie Blackmore fan LOVED this episode.

Oh, and I also watched one of those "inside the episode" shorts, and Odenkirk says he played that scene as: the crying started as genuine, and then he saw an opportunity to hurt Chuck and took it.
05-25-2017 , 07:27 AM
In any case, the much more important scene in the development of Saul Goodman was the bar scene. Kim and Jimmy are playing, "How would you con him" and Jimmy gets carried away to the point that Kim has to remind him that they're just playing...

It was pretty clear to me that Jimmy started just playing... but his natural skills and affinity for the con job had kicked in. Obv he'll have difficulty re-sealing that crack.
05-25-2017 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Currently rewatching Sunk Costs, and Mike only puts the drugs in one of the shoes. How does he know which one it is in when he shoots? Seems pretty far fetched IMO.
You don't think he can tell the difference between a left shoe and a right shoe?

He throws them over the wire, then from below, notes which shoe hangs lower, left or right. Then later, he aims for whichever shoe has the drugs - higher or lower.

      
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