The outcome was pretty good for her but the play was bad.

The idea of voting out Andrew was just bizarre.

One of those fake-outs that aren't credible. The edit still made me think that there was a non-zero chance it would.

I actually think her move was possibly super next level. I'll post why when i get home. I think it will interesting to hear her thoughts after the game.

but craig and that girl's disgust with andrew was genuine and intense. and it's easy to see why with some of the stuff andrew was saying.

lol no way. keeping it a secret is sooooo much better than telling them.

the only reason she told them is because she was panicking and trying to persuade them to vote with her. she wasn't trying to do any next level stuff.

Alright so here I my thoughts. I'm giving Phoebe a lot of credit because she had a correct read on Vavau's plans the previous tribal (just not of Kat and Kristie) and successfully faded using the HII this tribal. Granted this is most likely all fan fiction but she has been playing a fairly cerebral game so far.

I'm going to make a couple assumptions of what she knew going into tribal.
1. Everyone from Vavau was telling her to vote for Kat
2. She knew no one from Vavau was flipping to vote out Andrew
3. Kat and Kristie were being told to vote for her
4. Vavau had just successfully done a vote split and could easily do it again

On that last point, the safest way for Vavau to do a vote split given the higher likelihood of Phoebe having an idol over Kat would be to put 3 votes on Kat and 2 on Phoebe. In that scenario if all three girls vote how Vavau planned then it would be 4-4 Kat/Phoebe and if the girls voted together and Phoebe played her idol then it would be 3 Kat and 3 Andrew with 2 cancelled Phoebe votes.

Given all that the best plan for Phoebe imo was to do what she did and convince Kat and Kristie to vote for Andrew and vote for Kat herself. Thus diminishing the possibility of being voted out by a split vote by removing two votes that were meant to be on her. It also has the added effect of shifting the target off her back and on to Kristie. The problem is that telling the girls about the idol was literally the only way to convince them to vote for Andrew.

If she can survive one more tribal without playing the idol then she can make it to 14 and there will probably be another swap.

interesting tribal.

That was a solid arc from the editors. Having the rise and fall of Andy in three back to back episodes was pretty great. I think it's interesting to consider the ramifications of the longer pre merge phase in a 24 person season. It makes it much harder for someone that absolutely sucks at challenges to get deep in the game.

Seasons keeps delivering! (Spoiler up to end of episode 11, duh):

Man, Andrew's stock crashed fast, didn't it? Up to a certain point he had a good read on the situation, even participated in yoga against every instinct and fiber in his body, but then his weak social game and his back to back immunity challenge fails just were too much. I guess he was just a bit too confident in his own intelligence, he made a good villain, though.

I'm happy Phoebe recovered well and now even has an idol at her disposal. Yeah, I fist-pumped, too, when she found it. Apart from the Rohan vote-out her read on the game is still on par I think.

Challenge selection was a bit unlucky for Vavao, those were low on luck-factor and also didn't have a time-consuming puzzle or dexterity game at the end, the octopus was too easy to make up any time.

I hope Saanapu finally goes to tribal soon, I feel like there's potential for a good clash of opinions there, too.

Rooting still for Phoebe. Craig and Kate can be tentatively added to that list.

And I find myself hoping Nick wins out from the other tribe, but that's probably because I feel like he's an underdog over there and I can't help but root for underdogs.

I'm pretty sure Phoebe is the only likeable lawyer we've ever had on Survivor. Usually we get the Chaos Kaas or Andrew Savage types. Casting has been excellent, lots of people to root for and also some great villains (the hateable Andrew but also the likeable villain in Nick).

lol at andrew actually wearing a black hat

im surprised no one got sick from the chocolate. i would have considering throwing the reward challenge just to try and get the other team sick. and that was a grueling reward challenge. if you're gonna throw one, that's a good one to throw.

craig and sue were absolute beasts holding the rope. optimal strategy is to fill both baskets early. you gotta make both people work to hold on, so they both get tired.

Nick had a strong episode, the chicken thing was portrayed in a very positive light for him.
The Matt-freezer-full-of-chicken-nuggets story was hilarious.

Surprisingly, Nick and Connor both recovered very well from the vote-out swap. Both are also physically in such a shape they they're not going to be targeted early post-merge.

That scene where they decided to free the chicken was a perfect example how one person can be smart but even a small group of people can be very stupid when group dynamic comes into play.

eating the chicken would have been a lot better than eating the chocolate reward

I wonder if the producers took a step back and pondered whether they have been too soft on the castaways. They definitely have more food than the US version so that people dont die after 55 days but its quite possibly too much if 2/3 of a tribe isnt hungry enough to kill and eat a chicken.

they've been on there 3 weeks and they aren't getting skinny like on the american one.

http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/au...or/leaderboard

pretty shocked at the poll results for who the fans like. i think if it was americans voting the results would be a lot different.

I don't get what El has done to be at the bottom of the leaderboard. Conversely, I have no friggin clue why Kristie is at the top either. However that scene with Andrew calling everyone's brains are like Honda Civics, cut away to Kristie with the black teeth was hilarious. Had me belly laughing.

The fact that she voted for Kat in the end, while the 2 other girls stuck to Andrew, was a huge indicator that it was thought out and definitely more than a panic move, imo. Had she voted for Andrew, I would've agreed with you.


Also I like Nick more and more each episode. That poor guy is the only smart person out there. Nugget story was top notch.

it was sick how she voted for kat and they both voted for andrew. i'm sure she thought it out, and maybe she didn't panic. maybe you're right. but i don't think she needed to reveal she had an idol. she should have shown more patience. kat would have went home if she revealed her idol or not.

its good she got that other woman to vote for andrew, but its not as valuable as a secret idol. and the other woman might have voted for andrew even if phoebe didn't reveal her idol.

The absolutely only thing I'm surprised by is #1 there

Rest makes perfect sense

It has a small but loyal audience, it's getting pretty good buzz online with social media/news sites, and the Survivor subreddit really enjoy it.

I think the biggest concern I have with possibly getting a new season is the cost - The Bachelor/Bachelorette and Masterchef are two staple shows on the same channel and they get much better ratings, cost less and they can change it up as they're not entirely pre-filmed. The biggest thing in its favour is that it's raised their share considerably vs the same timeslots last year, and has bigger ratings than the first season of Bachelor did, which is continually renewed and has shown improvements. Should know more at the upfronts in November.

Outside of boring ratings talk I'm really, really enjoying this season. Very surprised at how much I'm enjoying it actually

I think the show will be renewed. They are going to learn so much from this first season that it would be stupid to not do a season 2. I also really want there to be another season so that I can apply.

Wait what, isn't this like the 3rd season? o_O

If theres a good way to watch this (not in Australia) PM me plz

Kinda. They did a season in 2002 which did poorly so was not renewed, then they did a celebrity season in 2006 which did poorly and was not renewed, so this is the third attempt. It's also been on a different major network each time.

Only thing I remember in the first season was in the very first episode they had a challenge to throw torches into a bonfire pit that would then light and the flame would have to get taller to ignite a fuse. But the wind was really strong and they had to cancel the challenge and had a boring trivia challenge instead. Also had a person vote themself out that episode