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03-11-2017 , 01:46 PM

Hero Value

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Hey guys.

A relatively standard spot, but wanted to get people's thoughts. It's a 40bb ($400) cap.

Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players - View hand 3036837
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BB: $590.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $2136.92

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 5

Hero raises to $25, BB calls $15

Flop: ($50.00) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28.96, BB raises to $135.38
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Some additional info; this is part of 8-game, and villain is extra laggy in PLO. He also snap pot check-raised it.

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03-11-2017 , 02:38 PM

DeKs

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224

Flat and see if he slows down? Folding seems too weak and reraising seems horrible. I like calling and then seeing if he will continue the story on the turn. Although if you're calling the flop, I don't know what card is going to make you happy. It's either fold flop or call and re-evaluate on turns / go with hand on blanks (but there are not many)?

All that being said I'm probably laying this down and picking a better spot. You can't turn better and you might already be dead in a small pot

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03-11-2017 , 08:53 PM

monikrazy

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I've got hero with about 55% equity best case vs reasonable ranges, that is giving villain some liberal spade combos, and it will be pretty hard to assess whether the turn is bad for you on non-spades

So I'd say shove or fold but don't call

Last edited by monikrazy; 03-11-2017 at 08:59 PM.

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03-12-2017 , 06:31 PM

lucaspawpaw16

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Not sure i agree with this. Assuming spades and a K kills us then i cant see how shoving is +EV here. We may even be behind on flop. I call and jam all non spade turns.

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03-13-2017 , 06:48 PM

Hero Value

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Kinda surprising to me that you say that, as you're normally a fan of stop n gos and often seem to advocate those kind of flats etc.
As lucas says below, I think that flatting and delaying til turn bricks/non-spades is a legit option.

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Not sure i agree with this. Assuming spades and a K kills us then i cant see how shoving is +EV here. We may even be behind on flop. I call and jam all non spade turns.

By jam I assume you also mean call off, if he shoves turn. (as we're IP.)
Does a K kill us? Aside from having 2 Queens to block QJ, and a straight draw, he doesn't have a ton of AK. AT might check a K turn, and lots of AKT 3bets pre.

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03-13-2017 , 09:58 PM

monikrazy

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I don't think flatting really makes playing the turn easier against such a wide-ranging opponent so I would just prefer a gto approach if its only 40bb total we will get in

If I knew more about villain tendencies on turn would be more inclined to consider alternatives

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03-14-2017 , 01:19 AM

DeKs

journeyman

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Isn't there something to be said about decreasing our variance with more marginal holdings?

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03-14-2017 , 01:19 AM

DeKs

journeyman

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And not just getting it in all day... Playing more post flop and less jam all in on flop?

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03-15-2017 , 01:01 PM

borg23

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Originally Posted by DeKs

Isn't there something to be said about decreasing our variance with more marginal holdings?

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lol@ decreasing variance
make the play that makes the most money

it's 40 blind cap ffs

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03-16-2017 , 12:16 AM

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AveeMaria

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Given your description, call < fold < jam.

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03-16-2017 , 05:51 PM

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praios

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get it in

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03-18-2017 , 06:59 AM

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user12345

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Check back flop anyone?

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03-18-2017 , 03:53 PM

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phunkphish

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Don't hate check back flop.

-We should be checking some A5xx combos. The best combos to check back are the ones will regret it and will have to make a reluctant fold. Namely, ones with BDFD and/or bad side cards that can't b/c.

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