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10-30-2014 , 10:31 AM
urubu quickly turning into my favorite poster
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10-30-2014 , 10:36 AM
yea, no idea

apparently this also belongs in the category of "nothing to discuss, deal with it" like the currency thing. nasty...

In case someone is still wondering the latest meetings ended 2 weeks ago
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10-30-2014 , 10:43 AM
im trying to figure out what was accomplished exactly? is there a TR out there yet?
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10-30-2014 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
yea, no idea

apparently this also belongs in the category of "nothing to discuss, deal with it" like the currency thing. nasty...

In case someone is still wondering the latest meetings ended 2 weeks ago
Can't wait for the report since you said your impression was quite positive...
Something must be good after all
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10-30-2014 , 10:50 AM
Yea but Steve apparently wasn't able to use any of the 115+ hours to have a look on it yet.

Really terrible & disrespectful AmayaStars didn't bring this to the table.

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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Can't wait for the report since you said your impression was quite positive...
Something must be good after all
I bet just meaningless promises by AmayaStars but who knows .
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10-30-2014 , 10:54 AM
Is 2p2 the only way we get informed of such changes? Shouldn't we at least get a mail or something, that the people are informed.
How is this even legal? Idk if the rates for electricity are increased, they NEED to inform me.
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10-30-2014 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Sect7G, I recall when you warned me whilist I was trying to defend Amaya's actions...
Well, I was pretty naive and you were spot on unfortunately
meh... the writings been on the wall for a while.

GGARJ I do appreciate your time and efforts but I think it's best if these meetings get cancelled as they have no purpose if Pstars is going to do what they want and not even have the decency to inform a 2+2 rep of important business decisions 2 weeks in advance.
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10-30-2014 , 11:52 AM
Steve emailed me last night promising to review my TR draft asap, I imagine he's been very busy.

I agree that this is terribly PR by Stars, and they may well have put the future of the meetings at risk. I still believe that positive changes were and will be achieved through them, but realise that such a perspective is a very tough sell right now
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10-30-2014 , 11:59 AM
Assuming no decline in play, how much extra will Stars' HU rake increase gross them per year?
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10-30-2014 , 12:40 PM
GGRJ, the groundbreaking rake increase news is too big... they should mention it at least, even if they don't want to change their minds.
Clearly, they don't give a **** about those meetings, or simply, they want to discuss minor changes which obv, we aren't interest in it.
Anyway ty for your effort
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10-30-2014 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
Steve emailed me last night promising to review my TR draft asap, I imagine he's been very busy.

I agree that this is terribly PR by Stars, and they may well have put the future of the meetings at risk. I still believe that positive changes were and will be achieved through them, but realise that such a perspective is a very tough sell right now
the crux of the issue as it relates to the meetings is that stars arent acting in good faith, by not acting in good faith they are depriving you and the others who attended of credibility. without good faith between parties and credibility of the representatives the whole process serves no purpose - they arent worth listening to, you wont be listened to, so why talk?

(fwiw its entirely possible that such an outcome was their desired objective in all of this. if they dont want the meetings to continue, better to have them rendered irrelevant by events than to cancel them uniliaterally).
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10-30-2014 , 12:55 PM
^^I agree that they should have, 100%
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10-30-2014 , 01:09 PM
All this **** almost makes me glad that these ****nuts banned me for no reason. Haha lets have a meeting, roll out two changes that hurt the people we say we want to communicate with right up their butts, but not tell them in said meeting.

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10-30-2014 , 01:16 PM
Why u got banned Ivanhoe?
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10-30-2014 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by danfiu
Why u got banned Ivanhoe?
Extremebunhunting
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10-30-2014 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
Steve emailed me last night promising to review my TR draft asap, I imagine he's been very busy.

I agree that this is terribly PR by Stars, and they may well have put the future of the meetings at risk. I still believe that positive changes were and will be achieved through them, but realise that such a perspective is a very tough sell right now
Man, this **** is always the same, ur TR takes 2 months in going out, im really mad
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10-30-2014 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by danfiu
Why u got banned Ivanhoe?
ivanhoe is it public who u are in ps?
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10-30-2014 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JoKon
ivanhoe is it public who u are in ps?
My nickname was Lvanhoe, case described here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-read-1420015/

Still have no fkn clue wtf happend there.
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10-30-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
yea, no idea

apparently this also belongs in the category of "nothing to discuss, deal with it" like the currency thing. nasty...

In case someone is still wondering the latest meetings ended 2 weeks ago
i thought there was a meeting on next weeks. october going too fast lol.

did they said anything about those new rake changes?
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10-31-2014 , 12:02 AM
nope
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10-31-2014 , 08:36 AM
ppl who still support those meetings must be delusional!
tbh i would rather save my time writing this non-saying TR and grind if i where in your shoes then commit more in this.

thx for your effort, you did your best, but even the darkest light on the cake should have realize now that they just dont care about our community.
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10-31-2014 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
For those looking to boycott the meetings:

It's true that the community has been left largely unsatisfied meeting after meeting, we've failed to get significant rake relief, add a new VIP level, ban seating scripts... but to say that we haven't made progress as a result of the meetings is a blatant distortion of reality. I know I didn't come home with many concrete changes from the last meetings, but reading my report and saying the trip was a waste of time is a conclusion I cannot understand.

How on earth is having a player sitting at the table while discussing player conditions a bad thing? I also don't get this nostalgia for the golden age of forum interaction before the meetings, do they somehow damage Stars' presence on 2+2?

If you don't like how Stars is treating their customers, take your rake to another site and boycott their business. Refusing the opportunity to give feedback with access to raw data has no benefit and actually weakens our leverage to negotiate changes.
Si.

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11-02-2014 , 03:05 AM
Thanks for posting this

I hope in 2015 everything goes back to the way it was in the 90s
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11-24-2014 , 02:47 PM
Just posted my report at zoo: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...014-a-1491343/
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11-24-2014 , 10:11 PM
Only took a month!
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