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Should I be calling turn Pot. Should I be calling turn Pot.

05-31-2017 , 09:09 AM
I was playing 2/2 PLO at Parx and the table was alright but got an interesting situation a few hours in.

I'm a straddled pot. Get 2 limpers and MP raises to 20. I have AJ106 double suited. I call in position seeing as this guy has been raising wide and each of the limpers is playing hands whether they are raised or not. So I don't mind taking this hand post flop.

Go to the flop 4 ways and flop comes out Qs10s6d. I have the AsJs. Checks to me and I bet 2/3 pot. I want to protect my hand and charge any silly straight draws or wraps. I get 2 callers. Turn 9c. Checks to middle position who pots it. He has been decently alright not getting too out of line but I don't think my hand is that bad against his range seeing that he likely doesn't have a set. So he just hit his straight and if he has A redraw is dead to spades. So I'm thinking all my boat puts are good as well as my spade outs.

Was it good for me to call this turn?
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05-31-2017 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Crobinso89
I was playing 2/2 PLO at Parx and the table was alright but got an interesting situation a few hours in.

I'm a straddled pot. Get 2 limpers and MP raises to 20. I have AJ106 double suited. I call in position seeing as this guy has been raising wide and each of the limpers is playing hands whether they are raised or not. So I don't mind taking this hand post flop.

Go to the flop 4 ways and flop comes out Qs10s6d. I have the AsJs. Checks to me and I bet 2/3 pot. I want to protect my hand and charge any silly straight draws or wraps. I get 2 callers. Turn 9c. Checks to middle position who pots it. He has been decently alright not getting too out of line but I don't think my hand is that bad against his range seeing that he likely doesn't have a set. So he just hit his straight and if he has A redraw is dead to spades. So I'm thinking all my boat puts are good as well as my spade outs.

Was it good for me to call this turn?
Does be pay you off if you hit? You need 2.4:1, and you're not getting it. Need some implied to make it right, right?

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06-06-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lil feller
Does be pay you off if you hit? You need 2.4:1, and you're not getting it. Need some implied to make it right, right?

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+1 beat me to it
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06-11-2017 , 12:29 AM
You may not be getting the implied odds, seeing he having the made hand of (kj), and you making your better hand, he would know that, so no chance of implied odds. But "no gamble no life"...
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06-11-2017 , 12:33 AM
So pot it
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06-13-2017 , 01:17 AM
Folding>raising>calling
If we call here, we have to call the river, too. Our odds aren't that good.
The 9 could be his gin card or he could have sandbagged something mediocre but something better than what you have.Since you said he doesn't get out of line, I"d fold.
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06-13-2017 , 09:08 AM
in what world do you have to call the river if you brick
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06-13-2017 , 11:42 PM
Pot it
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06-14-2017 , 12:04 AM
I play 2 2 at parx all the time send me a message, but standard fold as played not going to get called if we improve
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06-14-2017 , 10:41 AM
Yeah dude you only have the nfd + 2p + gs to the nuts

Just fold and wait for a better spot.
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06-15-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ibreakgames
Folding>raising>calling
If we call here, we have to call the river, too. Our odds aren't that good.
The 9 could be his gin card or he could have sandbagged something mediocre but something better than what you have.Since you said he doesn't get out of line, I"d fold.
LOL WUT?????? Nothing you said is correct
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06-16-2017 , 10:14 AM
Is everyone trolling? OP has 32.77% equity vs a random KJ. To call a pot bet you need 33% equity. So you have to get paid off almost never to profit on this call. River comes an offsuit K, and there's basically no way opponent can muck to a 1/2 pot bet. Anyone saying you're not going to get called if you improve...if that's true, you should be bluffing your opponents nonstop. There's 3 ways for the board to change that all will give you a win (K, spade, T6 pairing). If your opponent won't call on a T or 6, then by that logic you can bluff the Q and 9 and have enough raw equity + bluff equity to make this profitable; conversely if they will call a Q or 9, they will also call a T or 6 (and K). Basically this is the easiest call ever. You are 0.56% equity shy of having direct odds, you have a few bluff cards, and a offsuit K is the bingo card where they pretty much have to pay something. If you never bluff and only bet like 1/20th pot when you hit, you are pretty much guaranteed to profit on the turn call.

Last edited by Ten5x; 06-16-2017 at 10:22 AM.
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06-16-2017 , 05:44 PM
My Sims came up with ~33% equity, as I'd expect with a strong hand like 2p+nfd+nut gutter here. Stack sizes aren't mentioned here but somewhat relevant for the SPR going into the river and whether you expect to get a PSB or close to it in implieds on cards that give you the winning hand. Pretty easy call, no reason to jam as I don't expect you to make big mistakes on many rivers if you flat and you also want to entice other players to come along with dominated draws and whatnot.
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