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Old 05-22-2012, 06:46 PM   #1
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SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

I hope its ok to post this hand here... The reason Im posting here is because people will have a better read on one of the villains...

MP is Russian_nuts and CO is apparently a loose bad player playing 41/23.

Notice this is the very first level of blinds...

I need some help here

Poker Stars, $500 + $30 PL Omaha Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): 5,040
SB: 4,980
BB: 4,980
UTG: 5,000
MP: 5,040
CO: 4,830

Pre-Flop: (30) 9 T J Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP raises to 60, CO calls 60, Hero raises to 270, 2 folds, MP calls 210, CO calls 210

Flop: (840) 6 Q 9 (3 Players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets 630, MP raises to 2,730, CO calls 2,730, Hero
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:07 PM   #2
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

jam i guess that way you either have a monster stack or don't have to sit around a play a donkament for 8 hours
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:37 PM   #3
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

Don't see what else you could do but jam.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:37 PM   #4
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i think it depends on your table. if you got some really bad players, u might find a point to fold cause u can pretty easily get back on track by playing small ball. against competent players, jam and hope to have a huge chipstack.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:25 AM   #5
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

Clear get it in. Since cold caller CO is bad, u are getting a nice overlay from him.
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:28 AM   #6
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

Call and get it in on non-club turns. They will both still get it in with you ott but you will have better equity.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:22 PM   #7
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Call and get it in on non-club turns. They will both still get it in with you ott but you will have better equity.
cant ever be good to call over half your stack to see a safe turn. going to be over 6k in pot with less than half psb left.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:29 AM   #8
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

I dislike the 3bet preflop. As played just stack off and either get a big stack or go back to cash games.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:57 AM   #9
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cant ever be good to call over half your stack to see a safe turn. going to be over 6k in pot with less than half psb left.
You are never good on a club turn but preciesly because there will be over 6K in the pot ott with less than a pot sized left villain will still get it in with you on non-club turns (as they should). Therefore it is better call and see turn before putting in the rest. Remember, you can`t reload .
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:15 PM   #10
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

I'm more worried about losing action on a club than not being good I think. I don't think we can fold on clubs anyway, having some equity and being good some of the time. It's not that likely to turn a club if one or both of your opponents have them anyways. I just stick it in.
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:21 PM   #11
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

you should be pretty worried about not being good on a club turn lol
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:52 PM   #12
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I don't think a club turn is ideal, but I think if we flat we can't fold for 2000 into 9k pot but our opponents might correctly fold Q6 or something.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:06 AM   #13
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

Think about flop action and the fact that we are up against two opoonents. How can we ever be good on a club turn? Which hands do you put them on?
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:41 AM   #14
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I don't think a club turn is ideal, but I think if we flat we can't fold for 2000 into 9k pot but our opponents might correctly fold Q6 or something.
wtf lol. i think you should be more worried about the bajillion club combos rather than Q6.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:17 PM   #15
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Re: SCOOP PLO 530 - TOP2+OESD+BDFD very early, huge pot

I'm calling, looking for a blank turn, and jamming if that blank hits. If it's a club we can fold and start rebuilding with 200 BBs. Blinds are low so we have plenty of time to pick our spots.
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