OP, you didn't mention anything about live poker. Any speculations on how long we have before oculus-contact-lens w instant GTO access or whatever?

Also in your more general prognostications you didn't mention anything at all having to do with creativity. Is that because you don't know/neglected, or because you think the robots have got that covered too?

Live poker should be fine for the foreseeable future.

Creativity has nothing to do with poker. If you mean creative jobs (designer, architect, etc.) , they stand a good chance against automation in the foreseeable future.

I was a bit pessimistic as well about pokersites losing the battle against bot developers but PS started to give me hope lately with their decision to request videos of ppl playing.

I don't see how bots can escape that for too long. With legislation and regulation happening in most places I also don't think it's that easy to open 100 accounts and play just a little bit on each to not raise flags.
(they could also catch you for multiaccounting if you do)
Also, if they follow the GTO solutions they will get flagged fast based on stats.

It's unfortunate that we'll have to give up a bit of privacy and that we'll have to take videos of us playing.
I think that will soon be as standard as it is right now to provide ID and address bill.
That will also attract some negative publicity so fish might get scared to deposit online.

All things considered I believe the big networks will win the battle vs the bot developers with some sacrifices to the overall environment(sites like Ipoker don't really care about it atm).

I think you have some great insight and I agree with almost everything you posted except for this part. Economics does not have good job prospects. If you get an econ degree from an Ivy league school sure, but other than that is pretty useless. Computer science on the other hand is a very hot field. I think doing statistics without a heavy focus on programming is not that useful, but certainly it is better than economics.

Depends on what you study. If you do economics without statistics, the degree has basically no more value than a business admin degree (which has no value apart from the signal to employers that you have your **** together).

The advantage in economics is that good programs have rigorous statistical training with application, and a strong math background, which sets you up for lots of further study or data science/analysis jobs, etc.

I find it hard to believe that everyone who has posted in this thread has access to the internet and that there is even one of you who believes that study in any field that deals with mathematics is a worthwhile pursuit with the intention of gainful employment for the even the next 25 years.

actuarial science will be in demand up until and possibly after zombie apocalypse

Wait, you think that a mathematics-related degree is bad for employment in the next 25 years ? wtf

He probably thinks that machine learning will replace all white collar jobs in the next three decades.

I'll lay 20 to 1 he never coded up a neural net given his opinion.

Either know what the phrase gainful employment means or don't respond to my statement, thanks.

ok

You could as well explain it to him instead of showing arrogance.

Sure, but that would lead down the path of him demonstrating the lack of knowledge on a subject where he proclaimed a strong opinion.

Who wants that?

The plo micros were easier just two years ago than they are now at stars, where even plo2 is nitty at zoom. The games still were beatable at plo10 last year but i havent player there since i couldnt beat a 2 outer, variance beat me, but i have seen the scored of other players and can say plo50 is likely still clearly beatable at stars. I continued plo elsewhere and plo50 is there the first more real level but sure not tougher than stars plo25, ring, not zoom.

The bot problem should be more at ipoker and 888 as the best or easiest plug and go to sleep plo bot is supported there only. But there are other bots one can buy. And one would likely be using a nlh bot also.

And no, one does not need to stop ones day job at this time as the bots can work without you. These plug and play bots beat micros even with free profiles, at least with rb, bonuses, and if one can improve the profiles, as one can even with the plug and plays, they will then beat the bot popular nlh50 to nlh200 games, though there might be man bot combos also. The next step higher they speak mainly about dream machines, eg. The russian man bot combos where one manually acts but the bot gives advise.

The bots are for nlh, plo, plo8, cash and tournaments, any handed, any size. They can automatically or manually hde and can be renamed also if need be.

The bots at low medium limits are often the biggest winners, or those best of them are. So, it is not all clear their winrates say we also can win, eg the 888 rake can be 10bb and the winrate 5bb, when at stars the mt grindere score like 1bb at 100, plo, nlh. These bot scores do not necessarily even include any bot collusion.

The main good news come from pokerstars direction, as it isnt as easy and safe to bot there now. Though they dont ask documents, and to some it is easy to keep producing new accounts. The time for plug and sleep bots though can get over. That leaves the dream machines, and it is always possible to play manually additionally, it just making it easier to let the bot to do more or less of the work and a hybrid is more profitable than either one. It being then about how close one can manually play like ones bot.

I feel no need to defend arguments that I have neither made nor believe myself and if you misconstrued my words that is your fault, not mine. Please go reread my statement with an emphasis on who the statement pertains to along with the time frame involved. I am sorry, but I don't believe any one who had posted in this thread up to that point will prove that statement wrong; however, my statement does not necessarily pertain to every single human being on the planet, just the overwhelming majority of them.