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Old 06-22-2012, 07:05 PM   #1
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To river bet or river c/r? PLO 2/4 +

Obviously position is key in any poker game and more so in PLO. I get into some horrible river sports where I almost have to give up and generally I face a big bet on the river after either getting floated or the straight and flush come on the river.

Trying to turn this to my advantage where I am holding the nuts, I wondering what percentage I should be betting rivers or if I should be check raising rivers?

Long term do you feel that you are losing value here if you c/r river rather than value bet the river itself? Most opponents generally errr on the side of caution and I don't tend to call my river bets, so should I be letting them bluff more to try and gain more value?

I know this may take away my ablility to barrel 3 streets later on to observant opponents.

I also know this can be quite villan specific but I would love to know your thoughts please.

Playing 28/15 ish game.

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Old 06-22-2012, 10:12 PM   #2
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Re: To river bet or river c/r? PLO 2/4 +

It really depends on the layout of the hand. Every hand is different and your clues to what he has are going to be different as well.

Specifically I would say it matters what type of hand it looks like you could have (as well as what you actually have), what type of hand it looks like he could have, and how you think he'll react to each of the different scenarios.

Generally I would say go for the check/raise bluffs when you think he could be betting a missed-draw or if you think he would value-bet thin, but then you can credibly rep a better hand.

Go for check/raises for value when you think he could be betting a missed-draw but wouldn't raise your bet, or when you have the best hand and you think your opponent either has a very good hand, or could be value-betting thin.

You want to bet for value when you think your opponent would be weary of a check raise bluff (like a missed drawy board when he has a hand that will beat missed draws but not the nuts)

Someone could probably make a good statement about when to do it at the bottom/top of your range, but overall this is pretty much a microcosm question of how to play poker.

The answer involves hand reading, understand the game flow/dynamics (how likely your opponent is to do something given how the past actions have gone and how he is likely to adapt) and probably some other stuff too
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:15 AM   #3
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Re: To river bet or river c/r? PLO 2/4 +

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It really depends on the layout of the hand. Every hand is different and your clues to what he has are going to be different as well.

Specifically I would say it matters what type of hand it looks like you could have (as well as what you actually have), what type of hand it looks like he could have, and how you think he'll react to each of the different scenarios.

Generally I would say go for the check/raise bluffs when you think he could be betting a missed-draw or if you think he would value-bet thin, but then you can credibly rep a better hand.

Go for check/raises for value when you think he could be betting a missed-draw but wouldn't raise your bet, or when you have the best hand and you think your opponent either has a very good hand, or could be value-betting thin.

You want to bet for value when you think your opponent would be weary of a check raise bluff (like a missed drawy board when he has a hand that will beat missed draws but not the nuts)

Someone could probably make a good statement about when to do it at the bottom/top of your range, but overall this is pretty much a microcosm question of how to play poker.

The answer involves hand reading, understand the game flow/dynamics (how likely your opponent is to do something given how the past actions have gone and how he is likely to adapt) and probably some other stuff too
Thanks for your post, I know its such a broad question when there are so many variables that change the dynamics of an answer and I guess my point wasn't super specific and clear.

Every opponent, flop, turn and river is always so different which is why this is almost a pointless post but thanks for your response.
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