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09-23-2015 , 08:15 PM
    [hand_history]Poker Stars, $2,000 Buy-in (250/500 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37124635

    BTN: 33,041 (66.1 bb)
    SB: 25,273 (50.5 bb)
    BB: 52,886 (105.8 bb)
    MP: 88,875 (177.8 bb)
    Hero (CO): 35,268 (70.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K J Q 9
    MP folds, Hero raises to 1,500, BTN calls 1,500, SB folds, BB raises to 6,250, Hero calls 4,750, BTN calls 4,750

    Flop: (19,000) 8 J 4 (3 players)
    BB bets 19,000, Hero ???


    BTN is midstakes PLO reg, BB is high stakes PLO reg.

    I am not interested in ICM-**** at this moment of the tournament, so the question is only chipev-wise.
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    09-23-2015 , 09:23 PM
    fold?
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    09-24-2015 , 02:35 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krmont22
    fold?
    whaa?
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    09-24-2015 , 06:56 AM
    Probably a sigh fold
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    09-25-2015 , 09:32 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by guiltyishe
    Can I ask what makes you think this spot is interesting or complicated?
    Never said the spot is interesting or complicated, hence why called it "quick checkup".

    Just think the decision is pretty close. Would be more than happy with one-liner (or even "one-worder" - fold/gii) from sauhund and some other strong players.
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    09-25-2015 , 09:58 AM
    Facing two calls pre, his pot on the flop would be

    AA/KK with clubs and possible straight or 2p blockers,
    QJ9T JT98 DS
    JJ 88 at 7:3

    It looks pretty easy to muck your preflop investment there and wait

    The annoying/tilting factor is that he has over 20bbs left if he loses and so his range can be much wider, he may even be bluffing with very minimal blockers

    however there are kind of eccentric poker going on in this stake. But you provide no reads ont heir tempo so far other than they are cash regs, I'm guessing you folded or shoved and wanted reassurance. Shoving there would take a lot of reassurance... like he has been steamrolling his last 8 pots and you just want to gamble early to chip up oppose to playing a defensive game at this phase of the tournament.
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    09-25-2015 , 10:01 AM
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    Originally Posted by Scrudge
    Never said the spot is interesting or complicated, hence why called it "quick checkup".

    Just think the decision is pretty close. Would be more than happy with one-liner (or even "one-worder" - fold/gii) from sauhund and some other strong players.
    Most players would not bet pot into 3 here with naked Aces, 3 way with icm consideration. Also, you have a player behind you and your draw is very very marginal. Only in the best cases would you have ~50% equity. Rest of the time you are close to 20% ?
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    09-27-2015 , 06:33 AM
    yeah this is a fold bb is never betting aaxx here without nfd so gtfo with this hand
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    10-05-2015 , 03:21 PM
    easy fold.
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    10-06-2015 , 12:06 AM
    Why wouldn't bb get in almost any AAxx? There's 19k in the middle and the opposing stacks are 27 and 29k... don't think this spot is huge for us but I think we gotta go.
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    10-06-2015 , 12:11 PM
    Pretty std gii imo, seems i will have to check how wrong i am
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    10-06-2015 , 02:46 PM
    10 in our hand or on flop would obv change things. w/o it i think we have to sigh fold
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