Sup guys, I'm very new to PLO, so it's very possible I'm wrong, but some of the plays I've encountered didn't seem kosher. Here's the copy of the email I sent to support:

here are hands in question with a first set of possible partners, mibTLJ and brewersfan50:

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...DDwojGx8PFzcLB

brewers opens a very bad hand, KJ96ss, I call, mib conveniently has AAxx, which he naturally 3bets, now brewers decides to 4bet small with his terrible hand. The only logical reason for brewers to play that hand this way is to squeeze the caller in the middle (PARTICULARLY his 4bet). Taking the hand to showdown can be done in order to benefit brewers's image, and increase table's average pot size, if the money is going in the same pocket, they (or he) doesn't care.

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...HFw4jGx8PFzcLB

this one is less convincing, because both of them have a monster, but again, one of them has AAxx and 3bets, and the other 4bets to squeeze the caller

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...DMw4jGx8PFzcLB

brewers has a great hand, and raises, now mib decides to put in a small 3bet, after some action mib folds, it's interesting how when these two are in the hand, the action (opportunity to reraise) is always open. It should be also noted that 3bet/fold in PLO is a very rare occurrence.

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...HEx4jGx8PFzcLB

one of them has AAxx, and the other one drives the action (again). There's an open UTG, and brewers decides to just call with his pretty decent AAT8ss, and now again conveniently mib 3bets pot from the BB, and then ends up folding his hand.

They both leave at the same time. New set of players sits down, OmahaAAKK and ggurevichh:

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...HAzYjGx8PFzcLB

OmahaA limps behind a limper, now ggur pots from SB, after a few calls OmahaA 3bet repots (usually you raise AAxx after a limper, not limp behind), now ggur folds (one should have a strong hand in the SB raising limpers, because you will get called, and also in PLO you don't fold to 3bets after you raised, you fold maybe 5% of the time, and ggurevichh is a good winning player, so peculiar that he's making literally the simplest mistake in PLO)

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...HAzIjGx8PFzcLB

a victim minraises, OmahaA flats with AKK6ss, ggur, the good player, 3bet pots from BB, victim calls. Since the victim just called, we can assume he doesn't have AAxx, so KK is good, OmahaA raises, and now ggur FOLDS AGAIN. You don't fold in PLO preflop getting 2 to 1 EVER, because it's hard to be worse than 40/60, and all you need is 33% equity with 2 to 1, ALWAYS more than enough.

http://cakepoker.eu/en/HandHistory?H...HBwYjGx8PFzcLB

OmahaA open, ggur 3bets pot in position, someone calls, OmahaA 4bets, and now ggur folds again, in position. This is a guy who's up $4k 01/30-02/06, one week, not playing higher than 2-4. These two leave at the same time as well.


Cake security sent me a standard email, saying they reviewed the players and found nothing wrong, do I have a reason to be concerned?

every time i suspect collusion it has been in plo games. i play both plo and nl. i send emails to cake and they never find anything wrong also. i would just keep sending HH every time something is weird and their account will eventfully be locked and banned if their really is wrong doing.

Cake doesn't care about collusion. Myself and another HS LHE player reported 3 players who we both came to the independent conclusion were colluding. Cake banned them for chip dumping? and basically rudely told us both to shut up.

** we've both played there 6 years+ and raked hundred k+ each... cake just doesnt care **

just played a really obviously colluded hand with the villian in question (brewerfan50). I dont know how to save hand historys tho. could someone help me with this?

I've actually looked through all those posted HHs and if those are your whole case, please stop trying to convince anyone of collusion.

HELLO COLLUDER!

I think it's possible, on occasion, to fold getting 2-1 pre if you've got a bad feeling about your hand (or you're not feeling lucky).

That said, collusion is possible, but I wouldn't say that it's definite.

open hand history, and click "create shareable website" on top right.

I just started learning PLO, so it's very possible I'm wrong, but the plays seemed sketchy, always the same two trying to catch someone in the middle. I agree that the evidence might be light, but it's difficult to provide real evidence with no access to hole cards and the fact that if it's happening, the colluders would try their best to conceal their actions. I hope you're right though.