Villian was a fish
He steals 73% and calls every 3b.

He folds a lot to cbets. Overall 63% fold to cbets on rr flops over this session (181 hands)

I bet the turn, because we can get value from weak Jxxx,JQ8,J87....
+ We have blocker for the boat sidecards.

On the river i was unsure whether to just shove the rest or to check/fold ?

Problem of shoving is that we probably dont get value from worser hands, or do u think Villians could close his eyes and calls a naked J or Q8 or 87 (putting me on blockers) ???

Without a solid read on him making extremely loose calls on the river, a check here is good.

interesting spot, I cant play HU so Ill let others comment.
How SHOULD villain react to a check here, if he was good?

Is he calling naked jacks ? This river actually should make u more polarized , so I think he may be more willing to call you with a jack here then before , but then again if that true he's always calling flushs too , and some did get there . Very interesting I know in holdem in spots like this I love to value town like if I 4bet( a perceived range of QQ+ AK ) and flops comes like 934 o and I continue turn8 or wtvr and I bet again , if I have QQ+ when the 9 comes I love it , cuz I feel like people think I will be afraid they have the 9 ( which is a legit possibility ) and therefore check my QQ +, so when I shove they give me AK a lot more and I get calls from hands like 77-JJ a lot more then I would on say a 3 or other blank turns , new to PLO not sure if the concept cross over or this is the right place to apply it

I think against most opponents this has to be a c/f otr. He's just not turning enough Jxxx, Q8xx into a bluff to make calling profitable.

I just can't see the value in a river shove either. I don't think we're getting exploited all that often by him bluffing us off our value on the river when we check and I don't see him calling our stack size very often with worse hands, but calling with almost all hands better than ours.

Bet turn bigger then you don't end up in this crap.

c/f now

and rebuy!!

the guy is a fish - I cant see jamming being bad here given what we have left.

cf

On river c/f >>>>> c/c > jam IMO unless this guy is a super special station

jam > c/c imo

Not sure if jamming or c/f is best though

turn ist too big cf >>> jam

Yea I accidentally typed them backwards c/c is obv worst option. Still don't like jamming at all though... we didn't get river stats on him but his 63% fold CBet doesn't imply he is too afraid of being bluffed.

i think a good case can be made for a different line on every street.

why you think this validand notinuse?

vs range of wraps, pair oe, j, and 99 he will only have boat 23% of the time and fish will not fold straight. even if i just make his range j and 99 he will only have boat / quad 31% of the time with our blocker. also flop is pretty easy bet and pre is w/e

preflop i dont really like 3b rainbow hands, even when they are high and connected, esp vs what im interpreting as a 73pc btn raise which hu is a fair amount tighter than avg. i think its poor in terms of equity, playability, and keeping a balanced 3b range (since if we're 3b this type of highcard hand and yet 3b at a pretty reasonable frequency (even one adjusted upwards to exploit his rather high fold to cbet %), then presumably we're gonna have trouble keeping enough diff types of hands in our range to be tough on broad range of board textures).

on the flop there arent really many bad turns for us and we dont often get value from worse, while by chking we do sometimes let him catch up with a hand like a worse straight draw that we can then get two sts from but which may have folded flop. on the flipside i guess we arent chking a crazy amount of air here so i guess betting is prob a superior range play, although having stuff like this in our chking range prob makes us a little tougher to play against.

on the turn i think we're gonna have quite a strong betting range, and quite a lot of stuff with some marginal amount of equity in our chking range (hands we feel we cant profitably barrel), meaning we want to have a chking range that cant be easily abused so that we get to see rivs/showdowns with those marg equity hands a higher amount of the time since our oppt cant simply autostab his entire range (admittedly he almost always has showdown value, but still getting him to chk back AQTx/KKxx type stuff rather than bet knowing we're always chking weak and he may as well just bet to avoid somehow losing the pot on the river has some value). that said, given his range and the reads posted i think the line actually taken is fine.

as for riv idk, i feel like it might be a jam just bc the combination of
a) he often raises a jack otf
b) he sometimes jams a jack+clubs ott given stacks
c) we block some combos of overpair+clubs he couldve called flop/turn with

makes it so that he often has a straight here, and if we chk he pretty much gets to play perfectly whereas if we jam we give him the chance to make one of two possible mistakes.

Your blockers certainly make this closer but you only get value from an absolute hero call. He'd have to decide you were often stone bluffing the turn.