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Originally Posted by boobsicles
^^^^ I think people have become a little accustomed to over valuing draws and loving a good gamble, however if you do simple calculations you'd soon realize that you actually want these people to fold hands like KKJ7 etc because we will be printing alot more money from folds than compared to our $Ev when called. On TOP of that then comes all the variance...
Anyhow, the whole point of raising a combo draw is to exercise our fold equity and when called taking the flip, but in your argument you state you want these guys to stick it in with overpairs+straight draws?!? Is your hand like 80% against theirs in your head?? Because in reality it's basically a flip and you're not doing that great. And if you really want them to stick it in with that, Wtf do you expect them to fold that we want folds from? Because if they're that loose, they'll call you with a naked NfD which sucks for us
Also you're absolutely insane saying that you want to flat against nits and jam against lags, like you're just wrong on every level my man
very possible I am
I haven't played PLO seriously in a long time now as I've been spending my days coding. In the past I would have said given our 8 on top of our draw we want to GII vs LAGs who can often be the wrong end of 60/40s and are also more likely to have bet folds than the NITs who usually won't size this big into 2 opponents with less than a higher FD to us.
But as to the GII vs overpair + straight draws
board: Th8c3c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
jc9h8h7c 76.59% 603 50
KsKdJs7d 23.41% 167 50
Hand Equity Wins Ties
jc9h8h7c 71.52% 522 129
KsKdJs9d 28.48% 169 129
board: Th8c3c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
jc9h8h7c 67.44% 487 132
KsKhJh9d 32.56% 201 13
board: Th8c3c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
jc9h8h7c 67.99% 487 141
AsAhJh9d 32.01% 192 141
board: Th8c3c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
jc9h8h7c 72.32% 593 0
AsAhTs8d 27.68% 227 0
These are all hands they will marry when we GII that are overpair + more. Like I said been away for awhile so please correct me if these are wrong. After writing this I see the logic to always GII vs NITs so lets forget that was ever mention as NIT show up with all these combos a lot
One of the worst case hands
board: Th8c3c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
jc9h8h7c 47.44% 389 0
AsAc5c8d 52.56% 431 0
So ya I was wrong about not going for the NITs my bad chalk it up to rust. I do think you are incorrect about overpairs + more vs our hands. Please correct me if this is wrong.
Last edited by gakn29; 09-04-2015 at 11:07 AM.